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A Flat Earth? Answers In Genesis

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The cartoon displays the silly arguments about the shape of the earth.

Most people have thought about the shape of the earth. From their earliest days in school, teachers and textbooks have taught students that the earth is spherical. For those who have given this some thought and have begun to raise simple objections to the earth’s spherical shape, it doesn’t take much to plant seeds of doubt. Often, people will respond with the observation that photos from space clearly show a spherical earth. However, we know that photos can easily be photo shopped or faked. And these types of photos and videos (starting with the Apollo space missions) have been available only for a little more than a half century. But evidences for a spherical earth go back much further than this.

So how did people in the ancient world figure out that the earth is spherical? In the sixth century BC, Pythagoras taught that the earth was spherical, although none of his writings exist which explain how he came to this conclusion. Aristotle (384–322 BC) was among the first to write down the fact of our planet being a round sphere. He observed lunar eclipses and correctly realized that the cause of lunar eclipses (which can happen only with a full moon) is the shadow of the earth crawling across the moon. And because the edge of the earth’s shadow is always a portion of a circle, the earth’s shadow on the moon must also be a circle. If the earth were flat and round, like a disk, it could only cast a circular shadow for lunar eclipses that occur at midnight. For a lunar eclipse at sunrise or sunset, the earth’s shadow would be an ellipse, a line, or a rectangle. But during a lunar eclipse, the earth’s shadow is always a circle regardless of when the eclipse occurs. The only shape that consistently produces a circular shadow, regardless of its orientation, is a sphere. You can easily see this if you point a flashlight at a wall and use a circular dish and a ball. The dish will only project a circular shadow when oriented face-on to the light, and when it is edge on, or at any other angle, it will produce a line or ellipse.

The altitude of the North Star is noticeably higher in the sky at northern locations than at southern locations. For example, the North Star is much higher in the sky in Minnesota than it is in Florida, as anyone who pays attention to the night sky on vacation can attest. This can happen only if north-south motion is along an arc. Furthermore, the North Star (Polaris) is not visible in locations more than one degree south of the equator, nor is the Southern Cross visible in most of the Northern Hemisphere. This makes no sense in a flat-earth model but comports perfectly with a spherical earth.

Contrary to the common misconception, the medieval church did not believe or teach that the earth was flat. Thomas Aquinas (1225–1274 AD) introduced Aristotelian thought into medieval church teaching. Aristotle (fourth century BC) and subsequent Greek philosophers and mathematicians clearly taught that the earth was spherical. In the early second century BC, Eratosthenes measured the circumference of the spherical earth to a very close approximation. The works of Aristotle, Eratosthenes, and other scholars’ written works were all copied by monks and were widely available and discussed in the late medieval period by clergymen and well-educated people, and this continued through the transition to the Renaissance. Given the clear testimony of historical record, why is it so commonly believed by many people today (and ironically even by some in the church) that the church taught the earth was flat?

This misconception is easily traced to two late nineteenth-century skeptics, John William Draper and Andrew Dickson White, who invented the conflict thesis. The conflict thesis (a humanist tenet) holds that religion in general, and Christianity in particular, held back progress. The contention of the conflict thesis was that the alleged Dark Ages (fifth–fourteenth centuries) was a period when Europe was gripped with superstition (unfairly blamed solely on Christianity) that prevented intellectual advancement, and it was only after man’s reason (secular humanism) reasserted itself during the Renaissance that man slowly became unshackled from religious dogma, bringing about the Enlightenment.

It was known at the time how long it took to sail from Spain to the Orient by hugging the coast of Africa, rounding the Cape of Good Hope, and sailing up Eastern Africa and then past India. Keep in mind that the Suez Canal was not yet in existence. But going to the Orient via the Atlantic Ocean would be much longer since the Panama Canal did not exist at that time. For Columbus to have made it to China, he would have had to sail across the open Atlantic, circumvent South America and traverse the much vaster Pacific Ocean. And even though maps at that time were more crude and less accurate, most educated people knew that the distance was much greater by going west to the Orient.

The facts of history refute the commonly held story about Columbus. Much of the work supporting a flat earth today uncritically repeats and builds upon this false view. The flat-earth movement began in the mid-nineteenth century, the same time that the conflict thesis was being developed. While skeptics were ridiculing the Bible for allegedly teaching that the earth is flat, early flat-earthers foolishly accepted this false claim. Undoubtedly, the recent surge of interest in a flat earth among Christians has been fueled by the (false) belief that the Bible teaches that the earth is flat. But examining the Scriptures to see what they say, we find that promoters of a flat earth do not handle the text any better than they handle history.

I'm going to stop here for now. As we can see, God has established a round earth like it says in His Word. This is true in spite of what skeptics believe.
I hate to say this but I never thought I would ever see the day, in this day and age, when someone would actually believe the earth is flat!
WOW!!! What a beautiful, informative, and in-depth article! This is just absolutely brilliant and probably one of your best. I'm blown away at all the great information here. Amazing!! Thank you!!
does the Earth have four corners like the Bible says? Is the Earth truly a quadrilateral?? If so, where are these four alleged corners???

Isaiah 11:12 — And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

Rev 7:1 — And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

Rev 20:8 — And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

Ezekiel 7:2 — Also, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord God unto the land of Israel; An end, the end is come upon the four corners of the land.


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On a spherical Earth, this can't happen, right??

Matt 4:8 — Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;

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Does our spherical Earth have "ends"? If so, where??

Proverbs 30:4 —
Who hath bound the waters in a garment?
Who hath established all the ends of the earth?

Job 37:3 — He directeth it under the whole heaven, And his lightning unto the ends of the earth.

If we're living on a sphere, we're never going to reach any "end of the Earth,"

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The Earth has no corners, no ends, and you can't see all of it from one place. How do you explain all these contradictions in the Bible??
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues [quote]does the Earth have four corners like the Bible says?[/quote]

What do you think? How do you read it?
TheOrionbeltseeker · 36-40, M
@ElwoodBlues

[quote]Isaiah 11:12 — And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.[/quote]

[b]I still do think that The Israel and the middle East lies in the centre of the Earth and the four corners are Russia or Greenland in the North, Antarctica in the South, USA or Canada in the West and Phillipines in the East.

Obviously, The Author doesn't want to write a Science book in the days when not many were even literate enough to even read those words.
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[quote]Rev 7:1 — And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. [/quote]

[b]Four corners exactly are the North, South, East and West. The Words of the scriptures are to be taken literally but not this literally to prove it wrong. Just like Lord Jesus Christ said, "Pluck thy right eye out", He didn't mean you have to take a dagger and pull your eyes out of the socket. It was just a way to symbolise how big the sin is.

[b][u]I hope now you have started understanding better
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[quote]Rev 20:8 — And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.[/quote]

[b]For this, you should appreciate the far sightedness, the country in the North / Eastward extension have a population like sand particles, Don't they? They have even recently lifted ban from their one child policy and now you will see population explosion with the youth pyramid. So true revelation.
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[quote]Ezekiel 7:2 — Also, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord God unto the land of Israel; An end, the end is come upon the four corners of the land.[/quote]

[b]Even in this verse, you failed to understand the Four corners - The North, The South, The East and The West. Brain cells. [/b]

[quote]Matt 4:8 — Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;[/quote]

[b]Again you take it literally like cut thy right hand, it symbolises that from the top, you could view the cities, the state's and the palaces of great kingdoms back then. It doesn't even necessarily had to be a mountain, a mountain of water like a sea whirlpool, or any higher object from where you could see all around in general. The author doesn't know that Elwoodblues would point out the points he is trying to make with literal words and his brain would be so controlled by the politicians and the kings of his time that he won't be able to grasp simple words.[/b]


[quote]Does our spherical Earth have "ends"? If so, where??

Proverbs 30:4 —
Who hath bound the waters in a garment?
Who hath established all the ends of the earth?
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[b]I have already told you where your so called ends are like. Antarctica is an End, Australia, New Zealand is an end. You are just manipulating the words for your own sensual gratification and a showoff of your intellectual superiority but it makes me wonder about the design of your brain when you can't grasp the content. It makes you a ROT LEARNER[/b]

[u][b]That's why ROT LEARNING IS DANGEROUS and should be avoided at all costs. [/b][/u]


[quote]Job 37:3 — He directeth it under the whole heaven, And his lightning unto the ends of the earth.[/quote]



[b]The same way, those ends as you take them have capsized your thoughts and your narrative is wrong.[/b]






[u][b] I would like to enlighten you about the Lightning strike too. If we just could conserve every lightning strike, there would not be any need for power generation plants use the resources of Earth day and Night killing the resources. And No, God, in all sense created Night for us to sleep.


It's not the poor scientists who want to lit the night sky with more moons or lights everywhere because these poor scientists are mere puppet, they know not why they are doing it, they think they are serving mankind but actually they are serving the greedy wishes of their masters - The Politicians who, in early ages were Kings. From the top of the mountains, probably Saran wanted Jesus to know the power of these politicians or Kings who condition your mind to believe that Covid vaccines were good for you without a prolonged research and without actually knowing the after effects.[/b][/u]
Graylight · 51-55, F
In the 3rd century BC, Hellenistic astronomy established the roughly spherical shape of Earth as a physical fact and calculated the Earth's circumference. This knowledge was gradually adopted throughout the Old World during Late Antiquity and the Middle Ages. Science. See how that works, and they used a simple, still valid measurement method. Figure that. And Pythagoras only taught what the world already knew.

The Bible is not a science text. Mankind had not ushered in the Age of Reason yet. There [i]was no science as a discipline.[/i]

Do not refute what you so clearly don't even understand.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Graylight [quote]Mankind had not ushered in the Age of Reason yet.[/quote]

You're right and mankind has not yet reached the age of reason being that they're killing each other every day and destroying our world. They need Jesus real bad being that He already has reason and logic.
Graylight · 51-55, F
ArcAngel · 61-69, M
If you are really interested in the truth of YHWH's scriptures then check out
these vidieos:

https://www.youtube.com/@RichardAlan/videos

They reveal how the Scriptures are codes for our DNA and much more. They also
reveal how the dark ones are telling us what they are doing through movies and tv
commercials and how they are laughing at us and mocking us. They also show how
the 911 Twin Tower destruction and the bombing of the Pentagon building was
printed on US currency years before these events took place. And the destruction of
the Hoover Dam will take place in the near future as well as a tidal wave that will
wipe out NY city.
These events are clearly printed on the 10, 20, 50 and 100 dollar bills.
The details and interpretation of the Scriptures are so profound that a human
being COULD NOT MAKE THIS STUFF UP!!!

Love, Light and Peace,
Scott
ArcAngel · 61-69, M
As far as the flat earth is concerned, I challenge you to watch this vidieo ( the whole vidieo ); it is
8 hours long, so it is very intensive and indepth:

https://rumble.com/v2ociie-ewaranon-what-on-earth-happened.html

Love, Light and Peace,
Scott
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ArcAngel · 61-69, M
Here is an interesting vidieo ( short clip ):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCD3Qt-Q5dA

Love, Light and Peace,
Scott
ArcAngel · 61-69, M
@TheOrionbeltseeker
So, what are the details?

Love, Light and Peace,
Scott
TheOrionbeltseeker · 36-40, M
@ArcAngel Your video is sufficient
ArcAngel · 61-69, M
@TheOrionbeltseeker
Yes, I hope you enjoy it! Spread the word!

Love, Light and Peace,
Scott
ArcAngel · 61-69, M
This vidieo reveals a whole lot more than any of us ever knew
about 666 and is proof of the perfection of YHWH's word.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNgYt4GZ9S8
Love, Light and Peace,
Scott
ArcAngel · 61-69, M
Here is another interesting vidieo ( about 54 minutes ):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw2p06bgyKg

Love, Light and Peace,
Scott
ArcAngel · 61-69, M
Here is one more vidieo regarding flat earth:

https://rumble.com/v2qkm3j-biblical-cosmology-parts-1-and-2-genesis-1-1-17-psalms-191-6.html

Love, Light and Peace,
Scott
ArcAngel · 61-69, M
Here's another flat earther:

https://rumble.com/v2ql1nk-eric-dubay-the-top-20-proofs-earth-is-not-a-spinning-globe.html

Love, Light and Peace,
Scott
@ArcAngel Here's your final warning to stop spamming.

Peace and booty grease,

Shadowfire
Actually, the misconception can be traced back to several passages in the Bible, which I'll be happy to quote for you.

1 Chronicles 16:30: 'Tremble before Him, all the earth! The world is firmly established; it cannot be moved.' This speaks to the idea that the world is planted in a foundation.

1 Samuel 2:8: 'He raises the poor from the dust and lifts the needy from the ash heap; he seats them with princes and has them inherit a throne of honor. “For the foundations of the earth are the LORD’s; on them he has set the world.' Again, we see that God has described the earth, not as a spinning ball hurtling through space, but as having a firm foundation.

Isaiah 40:22: 'He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in.' Please note the use of the word מעגל (circle), rather than כדור (sphere). This is a description of a flat disc.

Jon 37:18: 'Can you join Him in spreading out the skies, hard as a mirror of cast bronze?' This is clearly a description of the vaulted dome over the flat earth.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@LordShadowfire [quote]1 Chronicles 16:30: 'Tremble before Him, all the earth! The world is firmly established; it cannot be moved.' This speaks to the idea that the world is planted in a foundation.[/quote]

Yeah, the universe and its orbit around the sun.

[quote]1 Samuel 2:8: 'He raises the poor from the dust and lifts the needy from the ash heap; he seats them with princes and has them inherit a throne of honor. “For the foundations of the earth are the LORD’s; on them he has set the world.' Again, we see that God has described the earth, not as a spinning ball hurtling through space, but as having a firm foundation.[/quote]

This shows that you can't interpret the Word of God which is the foundation of the world.

[quote]Isaiah 40:22: 'He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in.' Please note the use of the word מעגל (circle), rather than כדור (sphere). This is a description of a flat disc.[/quote]

The baseball, it has a circle doesn't it?

[quote]Jon 37:18: 'Can you join Him in spreading out the skies, hard as a mirror of cast bronze?' This is clearly a description of the vaulted dome over the flat earth.[/quote]

The truth: it describes the atmosphere above the earth.

If you want to believe the earth is flat, that's up to you. As for me and my household, we believe that it is round like the Word of God says it is.
TheOrionbeltseeker · 36-40, M
@LordShadowfire That's totally your biased approach. Any third person reading it would get the same. If I am talking to you about the phone, I will talk to you about 5G so that you understand. I won't talk about 15G, so whatever gives you a soothening effect but the truth is scripture is 100 percent right, not 99 not 101, just 100.

Still, you can mould it according to your convinience

 
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