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The Lie: Science Has Made God And His Word Out-Dated - The Truth: Science Gives Testimony To God and His Word

What science facts does the Bible contain that prove its validity? What knowledge is revealed that shows it was inspired by God years before the scientific community discovered them?

According to Bible Study: Our first science fact is in Genesis. It states that Noah's flood was created by the following, "on this day all the fountains of the great deep were broken up . . ." (Genesis 7:11, HBFV throughout). The word "fountains" comes from the Hebrew word mayan (Strong's Concordance #H4599) which means wells, springs or fountains of water. It took until 1977 for science to find ocean springs off Ecuador's coast that proved that such large bodies of water do indeed contains fountains spewing liquids (see The Medusa and the Snail by Lewis Thomas). These fountains or springs found in the ocean, spouting out 450-degree water, were found by science more than 3,300 years after Moses testified of their existence. This knowledge had to come from someone higher and greater than any man. It had to come from and be inspired by God!

And Terah took Abram his son, and Lot, the son of Haran, his grandson, and Sarai his daughter-in-law, his son Abram's wife. And he went forth with them from Ur of the Chaldees . . . (Genesis 11:31). In the past, science based skeptics often stated that if the Bible were true then we should be able to find the ancient city of Ur where Abraham lived. The skeptics had the temporary upper hand in their argument until Ur was found in 1854 A.D.! It was discovered that the city, at one time, was a prosperous and powerful capital city and a major hub for trading. Ur not only existed, in spite of the nay saying science community, it was sophisticated and organized!

The book of Ecclesiastes was written between 970 and 930 B.C. during the reign of Solomon. It contains an often overlooked but science based statement about the wind. The wind goes toward the south, and it turns around to the north; it whirls around continually; and the wind returns on its circuits (Ecclesiastes 1:6). How could anyone, thousands of year ago, have known about the pattern of the earth's winds? This pattern was not begun to be understood by science until the early part of the 19th century. Note that Ecclesiastes 1:6 states the wind goes south then turns to the north. Man has discovered that the earth's winds do indeed go clockwise in the Northern Hemisphere, and then turns about and goes counter clockwise in the Southern Hemisphere! Solomon said the wind whirls about continually. How could an observer on the ground possibly know that winds can move constantly since such consistency occurs only at high altitudes? This statement about the earth's winds would not make any sense to those living in Solomon's day. His inspired fact is yet another one in God's word that was ultimately proven true by modern science.

Early man thought earth was flat as a pancake. Scripture, however, tells us something different. God, who made all the science facts we take for granted possible, states in Isaiah that he is the one who sits on top of the circle of the earth! It is He Who sits above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers (Isaiah 40:22). The book of Isaiah was written between 757 and 696 B.C. Yet the understanding that the earth actually was round did not become a generally accepted fact of science until the Renaissance! Isaiah's writing about a circular earth, more than twenty-five hundred years ago, was correct!

What did humans living many years ago believe held up the earth? The book "World Mythology" by Donna Rosenberg (1994 edition) states many believed it "rested on the back of a turtle." The book "Myths & Legends" by Neil Philip states that Hindus, Greeks and others believed the world was "held up by a man, elephant, catfish, or some other physical support." Job is the oldest written Biblical book, dating to around 1660s B.C. Note what it says regarding how God "hung" the earth when he created it, a fact which any science in his day could by no means prove! He stretches out the north over the empty space, and He hung the earth on nothing (Job 26:7). When we look at earth against the backdrop of the rest of the universe, does it not look like it is just hanging in space, hanging from nothing? Gravity, which science is only now coming to understand, is the invisible force that holds the earth "up" in outer space.

Scoffers throughout history have maligned the accuracy of the Bible and considered it nothing more than a collection of fables and fairy tales. Over time, however, true science has consistently proven it statements to be correct and accurate. God's word has, and will continue to be, completely reliable on every subject it addresses.

Scoffers will always continue to scoff at God and His Word but will never be able to disprove it no matter how hard they try. Sad, really.
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kodiac · 22-25, M
You can't prove it no matter how hard you try. Sad really.
GodSpeed63 · 70-79, M
@kodiac
You can't prove it no matter how hard you try. Sad really.

How can I prove something that's already been proven?
kodiac · 22-25, M
@GodSpeed63 Try again .
originnone · 61-69, M
@kodiac but you can provide evidence....
@kodiac Why would you want to disprove it? Are you looking for the truth or for man-made philosophies? Just wondered because you know that God is no liar.
kodiac · 22-25, M
@LadyGrace I'm not tyring to disprove it I'm asking you to prove it .
kodiac · 22-25, M
@originnone I'm waiting
@kodiac You either believe or you don't. The proof is in the experience but not only that alone. If people cannot see the beauty and intricacies of nature and humans and all, then they're not looking. One can't find God, for the same reason a thief can't find a cop.
kodiac · 22-25, M
@LadyGrace There is no proof ,that's why it's called faith .I think if a person is going to make a massive post they should be able to prove what they say .I don't understand the point of these posts they can't be for believers because they already know so are they just to provoke people who may not believe into an argument?
@kodiac No. For discussion. Maybe there's some who don't understand something about the Bible so we discuss that and then there's others that may come to want to know more about or have questions or may even want to commit their lives to Christ.

Some are always asking for an explanation, yet no explanation is, or ever will be, good enough for those who don't want to believe.

Let me ask you something. Why do unbelievers bother with these posts if they don't like them? Why bother at all to come and start an argument? Some are just here to argue. It seems to me if they hated it that much, they would just simply stay away from it, than try to stir things up. They could simply pass them up like they do other posts and move along. Yet some make a special effort to be rude about it. That shows they just want to argue and they're not really interested in the subject matter.

Which brings me to this question. You told me a bit of your history. Are you angry with God for some reason? Because you keep talking negatively about things to do with God.
kodiac · 22-25, M
@LadyGrace But can't you see I'm not talking negative at all It feels like you say maybe some really want to understand yet anyone that questions these posts is automatically labeled negative, argumentative. So it seems these post are not for people seeking knowledge, but to simply put your beliefs on public display. Have you ever considered that there may be people who want more than anything to believe it all ? I don't enjoy the prospect that when i die that's it ,nothing just nothing . All I'm asking is for some little thing to counteract all the things in this world that make me believe it's not possible.
@kodiac Questioning is great and so is debate. I'm not talking about constructive criticism or even opposition. But surely youve seen the nasty remarks and personal attacks, I'm sure. That's what I'm talking about. There ARE those who want to do nothing but argue. The trolls or haters of Christ or Christians. Tell me who doesn't put their beliefs on any given subject, on public display. Is that a crime? If it is then I guess social websites should be banished. Nobody has to read our post if they don't like them, and they also don't need to go bashing us if they don't like it. They must really have a problem if people here can't write what they please.

The problem is not what we write. It's that people don't want to believe. You say you want to know, but when we give you the proof even from God's Word, then you say no, that's not right, I don't believe that. What's wrong with trusting Him for once and taking Him at His Word? It's man that lies, not God. God is someone that we can trust to keep His Word. If we can't trust Him, we can't trust anyone. So rather than put your trust in man, don't you think it'd be better to put your trust in God?

Despite the naturalistic and materialistic worldview that rejects the resurrection of Jesus, the evidence for it is verifiable. Jesus’ death by crucifixion is one of the best-established facts of ancient history, something even atheist scholars admit. We know Jesus was alive after his death because his many post-resurrection appearances proved he had risen from the dead. It did not happen in secret. There were numerous eyewitnesses to it and trustworthy pieces of evidence to support it, such as the conversion of skeptical witnesses, the empty tomb, etc. In 1 Corinthians 15:3–7, Paul even makes use of an early statement from the eyewitnesses of the risen Jesus that predates the writing of the letter (AD 55) by a number of years, with some scholars placing it’s formulation to within almost months (some scholars say 2–3 years) of the actual event of the crucifixion. What is more, even atheist scholars recognize that Jesus’ disciples had seen Jesus alive after his death. Given the historical evidence for the resurrection of Jesus, it would seem the reasons to reject it would either be a prior commitment to naturalism or the implication that we need to listen to what he says when it comes to sin, judgement, and salvation (see Mark 8:34–38).
@kodiac Christians didn't take a blind leap of faith. They base their lives on what God has revealed to be true about the world:

When Paul says that we walk “by faith” . . . he insists that his pattern of life is governed by what God has revealed as true about life: in other words, he trusts God, based on revelation. This faith, moreover, contrasts with walking “by what can be seen” . . . At present Paul cannot see Jesus, or God the Father, or the Spirit, or the spiritual realm, but he trusts God, in any case. His focus of life rests on the unseen, eternal realities, known through God’s revelation, even though he cannot physically see those realities (4:18). This is what it means to walk by faith—to trust God on the basis of what God has revealed to be true.
@kodiac
I don't enjoy the prospect that when i die that's it ,nothing just nothing . All I'm asking is for some little thing to counteract all the things in this world that make me believe it's not possible.

Thank you for your honesty. But God said and even proved by his resurrection in front of over 500 people, that it's not over when we die. There is much more to life after death. We have a spirit in us that never dies! That Spirit goes on to live forever and ever. Can't you believe God when he said so in his word? He wrote those things so we wouldn't have to guess. Anything is possible with God. Anything. Anything is possible in the spirit world and especially for God. Think about the alternative. I see that the choice is clear here. You either believe man or you believe God. I choose God over man any day! The only thing that makes man think contradictory of God is the devil. He doesn't want us to believe in God or His Word. The devil lies to us and tells us lies about the Lord. We have to decide if we're going to listen to the devil or to God and we can clearly see that God overtook Satan. He told about that in His Word. Why would Jesus die on the cross, only to lie to us about why he came? That's a lot of trouble and suffering, just to make a point, and he came to save us not to condemn us.
@kodiac I don't see where there's a contest. We either believe the lies that Satan tells us, or we believe God. That's when we can say, "Okay God, I'm going to trust you. I'm going to put all my trust in you to save me. I'm going to trust that you have told me the truth and I ask you to come into my heart and my life, as my Savior." And He does! There's no special wishing or expecting some special feeling. That is not necessary for salvation. Salvation has nothing whatsoever to do with feelings, but is entirely based on the work that Jesus did on the cross and His promise to save us from the condemnation that sin placed on us. God never lies and He never breaks a promise. He is sinless and incapable of doing so. Anyone who places their entire trust in Jesus, has nothing to lose!
@kodiac We don't have to prove it. God already proved his love for us on the cross. If that wasn't enough, then nothing is. And even at that, His death, then resurrection, proves He is God.
Lynda70 · F
@GodSpeed63
How can I prove something that's already been proven?
It hasn't been proven. Stop "lying for Jesus".
GodSpeed63 · 70-79, M
@LadyGrace
God is someone that we can trust to keep His Word. If we can't trust Him, we can't trust anyone. So rather than put your trust in man, don't you think it'd be better to put your trust in God?

Amen!! Share it sister, share it!!
GodSpeed63 · 70-79, M
@Lynda70
It hasn't been proven. Stop "lying for Jesus".

If I'm lying for Jesus, then what truth are you presenting for Him?
ArcAngel · 61-69, M
@GodSpeed63
Mt 22:14
For many are called, but few are chosen.
Love, Light and Peace,
Scott