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Ukiyo · 26-30
One could ask how to define illusion, and find that the perceptivity of illusion is reality if accepting that effects of illusion are persistent across the instantiated scope of the illusion. One could also state that illusion is not part of reality for the degree of causality does not conform to generalized causality despite the illusion taken place into the sphere of reality itself. Both sides give arguments, and it would be pretty hard to get a definitive conclusion, but:

If reality where to be an illusion, it would require that reality is completely duplicatable, unless can be reasoned that it is a uniuqe form of illusion at its core of course, and that the probability of the base reality being also an illusion is incremental to reality being an illusion because if trying to continuate this reasoning, one will end up with a hyperbolian sphere of complexity, simply put, the more hyperbolian an eucludian space is, the higher the probability of it being an illusion (read a repeatable process) So if reality where an illusion, the hyperbolical state would have a higher probability to extist, and scientists would discover an interlocking pattern that is found everywhere.

Currently, the odds of this reality being not an illusion is considered fairly small by many, though no one has yet a finitive statement on the matter if only looking to scientifics. 😇 From a more religious or spiritual side of things, I would argue that if there where to be "soul", "karma", and "supernatural forces", if we live in an illusion, these concepts would have to be either reproducable or proven to be false. This may become more tricky if considering that the self could visit an illusion and thus making one not fully part of the illusion thus not reproducable.

So, to wrap up my thoughts, illusion would deal with the infinite creation of new space on the horizon (a hyperbolian eucludian dimention as existance) to make the illusion since this is the only way we can comprihend creation to come into existance unless considering everything was there at ones of course, or having an exotic way of reverse appearing or segmented creation; but in that case it would also mean that existance would not expand from a central perspective from the start at least. 🤔 It would deal with the non-unique and unique pathways that share connections with that what is/are the illusion(s) and the base reality, meaning an illusion would be only able to be proven if there is a logical connection between the illusion and that what is outside of the currently experienced illusion. Many spiritual topics on that matter deal with that in one way or the other. Spirituality is in my opinon prone to therefore be enhanced by the illusion theory, and it becomes more feastable the more these connections are being understood, giving both depth and new questions.. since it would be hyperbolical.. 😋

SW-User
The 13th century zen master, Dogen, spoke much of illusion, of dreams, of how each related to the other. His style of writing is often complex and difficult to understand but I think he saw through this question. Dreams for him, as he saw it, were simply another instance of the great illusion. The great illusion we all live under. Maya.

I must resort to the commentary on Dogen by Hee-Jin Kim, from his book "Eihei Dogen:Mystical Realist".

Dreams are a favorite metaphor in the Buddhist tradition and are often used to signify phantasmic and phantasmagoric unrealities. Dreams and realities are sharply differentiated and contrasted, and by and large, the former are conceived in depreciatory terms. In Dōgen’s view, however, dreams were as real and legitimate as the so-called realities in that they comprised our incessant efforts to decipher and dramatize the expressive and actional possibilities of existence. Both dreams and realities were ultimately empty, unattainable, and without self-nature. Going a step further, Dōgen thought that existence was essentially a discourse on a dream within a dream.

Further:-

What concerned Dōgen most was not to eliminate illusion in favour of reality so much as it was to see illusion as the total realization—not as one illusion among others, but as the illusion, with nothing but the illusion throughout the universe until we could at last find no illusion. Only if and when we realized the non-duality of illusion and reality in emptiness could we deal with them wisely and compassionately.

Anyway, possibly no one is interested in this , all seen as so much nonsense. Each to their own. Believe it or not, it brings a degree of clarity, even simplicity, to my mind/heart.

What you see is what you get. What could be more simple?
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
Our perception of reality is an illusion or a construct of our minds.
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@Peaceandnamaste I have no way to disprove you, I just don't know why that would be the case.
@Peaceandnamaste It's a spectrum. Just as we have prions on one end which are not alive, viruses that may or may not be alive depending on how you define "life," on to bacteria and other lifeforms, consciousness is also on a spectrum. We are learning that plants communicate with each other and have a rudimentary form of intelligence. And of course, anyone who lives with a pet will notice that animals are definitely conscious even if their intelligence is not on par with humans. So there's a spectrum there too.

The problem is black and white religious thinking that says something is either alive or not alive, or conscious or not conscious with no possibility of uncertainty.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@JimboSaturn From muck you came, then to muck you shall return.
Dolimyte · 41-45, M
There is no solution to solipsism. We act as if the reality we perceive is a true representation because there is little option to do otherwise.
SW-User
I like this question. I wondered in my mind if it should be written, what if reality is an illusion. Tenses upon this question, matter. Present, which will always be a ball of confusion, full of teachings, random thoughts, emotions impacting you in a way you may never see upon that moment. (Time Present). Think of it this way, musicians need to practice together most often to give over a performance an audience to hear, even though they really speak the same language in music. But do they? I don't play music, but from a family of musicians, lovers of music, and I spend most of my time scouring lyrics, feeling out the lyrics, then singing them in my minor D's, C's, etc etc... They are my D's, C's.

Time and life happens, there somewhere is an objective reality, but I'll never see. My minor D, might be another's minor C. Or my deep blue azure I see in colour, may be seen the same by another, but the metaphors, understandings, how we feel may entirely be differently even if we call the colour brilliant or sad.

I may see the sun, you may see the sun, but do we see the same sun? Yes we do, but never how we take in the sun, and if you use the most common elements that are understand you create some understanding together in the world. It's the way I see life, at least.
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@SW-User I have had similar conversations. When I see the colour "red" do you see the same colour? You could be seeing "orange" but to you orange is called red.
ArcAngel · 61-69, M
Physical realiy is an illusion or maya as the eastern yogis
put it; the only true reality is the Eternal Spirit and Light
of YHWH which is incorruptable, it is not involved in
Time!
Love, Light and Peace,
Scott
ArcAngel · 61-69, M
All the universes and spiritual heavens exist on different vibratory levels, different frequency
levels. This science of sacred sounds had been lost to the western religious systems for
thousands of years. It is now coming back. When you intone ( sing ) YHWH's sacred Names
( attributes ), you raise your soul's vibratory rate. And when done properly, you can open
up doorways to Higher Dimensional Realms and have Higher Experiences in the Higher Light.
I recommend that you order a copy of The Seventy-Two Living Divine Names of the Most
High by Dr. J.J. Hurtak, Ph. D., Ph. D., M. Th. And study, study, and study the contents of
this book and commit the Names to memory. These Names are the Ancient Names in
Hebrew and Aramaic that Moses, Jesus, and the Prophets of the Scriptures of Light spoke.
You should read the note to the reader and the whole introduction first.

Love, Light and Peace,
Scott
nothing is real
not even you
but in unreality, the unreal is real for the unreal
so everything is real

in short, there is no difference
SW-User
From the "eastern" non-dualist perspective, it would make no difference.
ArcAngel · 61-69, M
Job 9:9
Which maketh Arc-tu'-rus, O-ri'-on, and Ple'-ia-des, and the chambers of the south.
In the Keys of Enoch, Enoch goes into great detail about Arcturus; what its function
is and what its role is in our collective ascension. He also explains how Orion is
a gateway to our Father Universe; we live in a Son Universe, and how the Higher
Beings came from Orion to our planet shown in Ezekiel's “wheels within wheels”
Eze 1:4-10,15-28 and landed on the earth to instruct Ezekiel as to the Cosmic
Law.
He also explains that the Pleiades is the realm where the physical bodies of the
Adamic Race are created. The Higher Souls are created in Orion.
He also talks about the Great Pyramid of Giza in Egypt and other sacred temple
sites that the Lords of Light built in ages past when they came to this planet
to raise the consciousness of Man.

Love, Light and Peace,
Scott
ArcAngel · 61-69, M
This is a Warning as to what Satan and the Dark Forces are up to. Regarding the Covid-19
vaccine, these people are not stupid, they are EVIL! My younger brother who is also a servant
of YHWH brought this to my attention. His mission and purpose in life is to bring to light the
TRUTH about what the Dark Ones are up to. He came across a website by a woman who is
also a servant of YHWH; the site is https://karenkingston.substack.com/; here is a sample:
While more than 265 million Americans were injected withgene-editing bioweapon nanotechnologiesas part of the largest global-criminal-biological experiment on humans in history,our trusted experts are denying us the right to use the termsbioweaponandgene-editing nanotechnologiesso that we are unable to even comprehend these crimes, nevermind prosecute Pfizer.
Are the terms ‘bioweapon’ and ‘nanotechnology’ being mocked because the actual desired outcome is tonevercompletely remove the mRNA bioweapons from our communities and toneverprosecute Pfizer?
Are Trusted Experts Invested in Humanity or Transhumanism?
Big Pharma, biotech, and other organizations and individuals who are invested in this gene-editing nanotechnology refer to this demonic invention as ‘mRNA vaccines’ or gene therapies only because no one would have ever agreed otherwise to be ‘vaccinated’ if they were told that the shots contained gene-editing nanotechnologies.
March 18, 2023: It was decided years ago to lie to global citizens about the end-game use of gene-editing nanotechnologies and the convergence of the digital world with the human body. Biotechnology is quite literally the science of turning technology into new life forms and
Read full story
If one credible mRNA expert would be honest with the American people and tell the world that they were NOT injected with an ‘mRNA vaccine’, but that they were injected with agene-editing bioweapon nanotechnologies, I believe humanity would wake up to the fact that we were all unknowingly forced into the largest criminal human experiment ever conducted in the history of mankind. Forcing permanent non-human biological andmechanical genetic mutations to the human genomeis not ethical.
If left unstopped, transhumanism (or Directed Evolution) and the use of mRNA technology will lead to the creation of new biodigital chimeric species and the extinction of the human species. mRNA technology is not for the benefit of humanity. mRNA nanoparticle technologies are weapons of mass destruction.
Sharethis informationwith law enforcement and local government to have the COVID-19 injections removed from your community.
DEMAND: Immediately Stop Access to COVID-19 Injections Across All Florida Counties
MAY 22

I recommend that you go to her website and really read the info.

REMEMBER!
Isa 54:17
No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against
thee in judgement thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of YHWH, and their
righteousness is of me, saith YHWH.

Love, Light and Peace,
Scott
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
There is no reality only illusion.
Budwick · 70-79, M
@ArcAngel John 3:16
John 3:16 is probably the most well-known Bible verse: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
ArcAngel · 61-69, M
@Budwick
Yes, but that means not just believing but doing what he
taught and he is not the only Son of YHWH:
But as many as received him, to them gave he POWER TO BECOME THE SONS
OF GOD, even to those who believed on his NAME.
Perfect

Gen 6:9
...Noah was a just man and PERFECT in his generations, and Noah
walked with God. Just like Enoch.
Gen 17:1
...I am the Almighty God: walk before me, and be thou PERFECT.
Deut 18:13
Thou shalt be PERFECT with YHWH.
2 Sam 22:33
YHWH is my strength and power: and maketh my way PERFECT.
1 Ks 8:61 15:14
Let your heart therefore be PERFECT with YHWH...
...Nevertheless A'-sa's heart was PERFECT with YHWH all his days.
2 Ks 20:3
...And with a PERFECT heart...
1 Chr 28:9 29:9,19
...With a PERFECT heart...
...Because with PERFECT heart...
And give unto Solomon a PERFECT heart...
2 Chr 15:17 16:9 19:9
...The heart of A'sa was PERFECT all his days.
...Whose heart is PERFECT towards him...
...And with a PERFECT heart.

Some more verses:
Job 1:1,8 36:4
Ps 18:32 37:37 101:2,6
Pro 2:21 11:5
Isa 38:3
Mt 5;48 19:21
Luke 6:40
Jn 17:23
Rom 12:2
1 Cor 2:6
2 Cor 13:11
Eph 4:13
Col 1:28 4:12
2 Tim 3:17
Heb 12:23 13:21
Jam 1:4 3:2
1 Pet 5:10


Sin no more
Jn 5:14 8:11
...SIN NO MORE, lest a worse thing come unto thee.
...Go and SIN NO MORE.
Exo 20:20
...That ye SIN NOT.
Lev 19:17
...Not suffer SIN UPON HIM.
1 Sam 12:23 19:4
...YHWH forbid that I should SIN against YHWH in ceasing to pray
for you...
...Let not the king SIN against his servant...
Job 1:22 5;24
In all this Job SINNED not...
...And shalt not SIN.
Some more verses:
Ps 4:4 119:11
Ecc 5:6
Eze 3:21 18:21
Rom 6:12
1 Cor 15:34
1 Jn 3:9 5:18
Rev 18:4

Jn 10:33-35
The Jews answered him, saying, for a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and
because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.
Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I SAID YE ARE GODS?
If he called them gods, unto whom the WORD OF GOD came, and the SCRIPTURE CANNOT
BE BROKEN...
Notice the word gods; plural, more than one; that includes you if you open your heart and mind
to the Higher Light of YHWH.

Pray
Mt 26:41
Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation...
Luke 2:37 6:12 18:1 21:36 22:46
...But served YHWH with fastings and prayers night and day.
...He went out into a mountain to pray, and continued all night in prayer to YHWH.
...That men ought always to pray, and not to faint.
Watch ye therefore, and pray always...
...Why sleep ye? Rise and pray, lest ye enter into temptation.
Acts 2:42 6:4 10:2 12:5
And they continued steadfastly in the apostels' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of
bread, and in prayers.
But we will give ourselves continually to prayer...
...And prayed to YHWH always.
...But prayer was made without ceasing...
Rom 12:12
...Continuing instant in prayer.
Eph 6:18
Praying always with all prayer...
Col 1:3,9 4:12
...Praying always for you.
...Do not cease to pray for you...
...Labouring fervently for you in prayers...
1 Thess 3:10 5:17
Night and day praying exceedingly...
Pray without ceasing.
2 Thess 1:11
Wherefore also we pray always for you...
1 Tim 5:5
And continueth in supplications and prayers night and day.
2 Tim 1:3
,,,That without ceasing I have remembrance of thee in my prayers night and day.

So if Jesus died on the cross for all of our sins, why all this praying? Why bother?
He did it all for us.

Love, Light and Peace,
Scott
ArcAngel · 61-69, M
@Budwick

Gen 6:2,4
That the sons of YHWH...
...When the sons of YHWH...
Job 1:6 2:1 38:7
...When the sons of YHWH came...
…When the sons of YHWH came...
…And all the sons of YHWH...
Hos 1:10
...Ye are the sons of the living YHWH.
Jn 1:12
...Power to become sons of YHWH...
Rom 8:14,19
...They are the sons of YHWH.
...The sons of YHWH.
Phil 2:15
...The sons of YHWH...
1 Jn 3:1,2
...Called the sons of YHWH...
...We are the sons of YHWH...

Ya gotta do your homework bro.

Love, Light and Peace,
Scott
What makes you think it isn't?
SW-User
likesnatural · 70-79, M
Reality can't be an illusion. Dreams, ideas, and suppositions usually are.
Dan193 · 31-35, M
We'd still percep everything as real, no matter how much we'd rationalize it.
Alyosha · 31-35, M
Then you would be delusional.
@Alyosha In this world, that's called "normal."
originnone · 61-69, M
we decide which is right
and which is an illusion
Ferric67 · M
Just like the matrix
You might notice glitches.
Reality is the enemy, not an illusion. That's why the country is killing the planet. Reality is the enemy.
Everyone wants to kill this planet and go to Mars.
@Roundandroundwego You're a weird bird.
@MsSwan this obsession with another reality is amazing. Gone viral since 2010. But I don't doubt you find me weird. I can definitely dismiss you - but for other reasons.
Fukfacewillie · 56-60, M
It would be identical.
ArcAngel · 61-69, M
@Fukfacewillie
Identical to what?
Love, Light and Peace,
Scott
Fukfacewillie · 56-60, M
@ArcAngel to reality, the one you’re in now
ArcAngel · 61-69, M
@Fukfacewillie
I'm multi-dimensional, I have access to many realities.
Here's an example:
In the late 1990's, after much prayer and pouring out all the love that I could muster to
God and the Angels, and reading all through the Keys, I was reading in the section of
Key 3-0-9 about physical biosatellites up to fifty miles in length and twelve miles in
diameter that will house the millions of emigrants that will proceed to other physical planets.
And there was much said about the wonderfull amenities regarding these ships. And he said these
are the advanced gifts reserved for the physical "elect" who have proved worthy of the Kingdom of
the Father and who have been preserved in physical bodies to work with the technology of
the Higher Evolution. Some will be "gardeners" and "caretakers" of the earths and the regions
of the lower heavens. And while I was thinking boy I hope that includes me, all of a sudden
I heard a low frequency crackeling sound and from the very marrow of my bones, I saw tiny
bright pulsating diamonds of Light protruding out of my arms and as they reached my skin,
they got larger and larger until they were surrounding my entire body. And they were all
different colors; blue, yellow, gold, white and crystal clear. And I felt the Great Love
of the Father; so intense was this Love; and the Power was beyond belief. And I was so
excited, I didn't know what to do with my self. I experienced for a moment the eternity
domain. And it wasn't until two months or so when I moved to upstate New York, the
finger lakes region, and I was studing with a woman who was a double Michael fragment who
had the gift of communicating with the High Ones as she put it, Michael, Metatron, and
others who told me that the pulsating diamonds of Light were Angels. And then I realized
that I was in no need of physical ships for I come from the Angelic Realm. And at around the
same time I experienced the Angels, I received in my third eye through telethought communication,
a clear picture of the lower third part of a bicycle with a woman's boot on the petals. And
I didn't understand what that meant. Jumping foward to the finger lakes while I was in a Hebrew
book store, I came across a pamphlet, that stated that the definition of Ophanim, was "bicycle."


The Ophanim are the messengers of Light from the higher heavens of the Father, uniquely placed
at the crossroads of space, as the network for governing and implanting "new realization."
When the prophets of the ancient civilizations made contact with the higher worlds, invariably
the contact was made through the Ophanim messengers of Light. The Ophanim carefully select
individuals in each of the planetary societies who have the ability of prophethood and carry
the understanding of the higher creation.
They supervise the crucial aspects of growth within hiearchical ranks of the heavens and
protect the higher teachings from falling into the hands of the lesser forces of Light, and
from the rebellious brotherhoods, who do not serve the Father's Hierarchy of Light.
Therefore' the Ophanim guide the thought-forms from the Father's Thrones and Dominions into
proper levels of instruction.
There is also a distinct aspect of the Ophanim's work which is synonymous with "Wheels-within-
Wheels, the appearance force of the Merkabah as it comes into physical manifestation. The
Ophanim are closely identified with the Merkabah which is used to announce the Cosmic Law
of YHWH and bring scripture to the lower planetary worlds.
The Ophanim also make the Merkabah available to the other Orders of Higher Intelligence
so as to carry out specific functions:
to guide men to the know-
ledge of the Infinite Way;
to minister to disembodied
entities on the physical
and spiritual planets;
to protect man from belief
systems which are incon-
sistent with the Love and
Light of the Cosmic Law;
to guard mankind from the
extraterrestrial intelli-
gences that would radi-
cally change the balance
and flow design between
kingdoms of creation;
and
to regenerate and resurrect
the faithful remnant of a
"seed creation" when the
powers of Michael and
Christ converge to bring
one design of creation
into the "new heavens"
of YHWH.
There are several Orders of Ophanim extending from the Higher Evolutionary Orders to the
Princely Ophanim who dispatch the Mid-Way programmers to govern the lower heavens.
There are also special Orders of Ophanim who command the 'Deca-Delta' ( Ten Light emanations
working through a pyramidal conic section which arranges the blueprint of life. In relation-
ship to the 'divine recorder cell,' a unique pyramidal energy network formed by ten
Light superscripts of the Divine Mind. The network is an energy habitat for Sephirothic
life forms which issue forth from each level of higher universal substance to form the
olam yihud, the world of unifications. The manifold of energy through which procedural
initiatives are dispatched in establishing the matter-energy typologies for proper
balance between the lower and higher worlds to coordinate creation.) manifestations to
target interplanetary grids. These are Ophanim who can work with the limitations on the
edge of a Mansion World.

And I wondered how they knew a couple of months back, that I would find that pamphlet.
They looked foward in time.


And when I was living near the finger lakes, I had an even greater experience. One night
during a sleep cycle I was taken out of my body and time-translated to my High Self back
when the asteriod belt was the planet Maldek. Now Maldek was inhabited with very dark
reptilian beings and my High Self was a GALAXY OF PURE CONSCIOUSNESS WHITE LIGHT, a God,
not a god, or a GOD, but a God, and as I passed by Maldek the planet exploded because it
was the Father's Will that the reptoids be destroyed, so I utterly destroyed it. In the
higher realms it's much easier to feel your Godness. It's much harder to feel your godness
down here on earth because of the lower vibratary levels. Now Metatron told me that I
come from a very High Place. The experience was beyond ecstasy. YHWH's creation is so
HUGE, there is so much room, so much space. Now even though I was created an exhalted
being, I still remain very humble and meek, just like Moses: Num 12:3 ( Now the man Moses
was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth.) And Jesus was
meek also Mt: 21:4,5 All this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by
the prophet, saying,
TELL YE THE DAUGHTER OF SI'-ON, BEHOLD, THY KING COMETH UNTO THEE, MEEK, AND SITTING
UPON AN ASS, AND A COLT THE FOAL OF AN ASS. Luke 9:48 And he said unto them, whoso-
ever receive this child in my name receiveth me; and whosoever shall receive me
receiveth him that sent me: for he that is least among you all, the same shall be
great. 14:11 for whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth
himself shall be exalted. Jud 6:15 And he said unto him, Oh my Lord, wherewith
shall I save Isreal? behold my family is poor in Manas'-seh, and I am the least in
my father's house. 1 Sam 17:33 And Saul said to David, Thou are not able to go
against this Philis'-tine to fight with him: for thou art but a youth, and he a
man of war from his youth.

I took these experiences as a sign and a witness that I should
study this Great Work, the Keys of Enoch.

Love, Light and Peace,
Scott
Bang5luts · M
I would be ecstatic
Jaego · 100+
That would depend on if the real reality is shitter than the illusory one.
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