Excuses excuses and excuse

@NotSureAboutMyUserName “There were slaves in every part of the world and people from all religions probably had slaves.” Is the most common and lazy argument I run into from a group of people who claim their god didn’t want to make people slaves yet made laws on who they can enslave, laws that highly resemble the ones of the nations around them that they consider evil. The cognitive dissonance couldn’t be any stronger.

@Khonsu[big]Is the most common and lazy argument I run into from a group of people who claim their god[/big]


I kinda guessed that you would say something like this.

FYI I'm not a Christian.

@NotSureAboutMyUserName “ You said it like only Christians make excuses, there is a word for slave in all languages isn't it.” The post is about moral inconsistencies in the Bible and the excuses christians make for said moral inconsistencies.

@Khonsu I get it, you have so much hate for Christians.

@NotSureAboutMyUserName Equating me pointing out moral consistencies to actual hating a group where most don’t even have a choice in their belief system is pure logical fallacy. Most people need to recognize that it’s not really the people but the systems in place that are the actual problem.

@Khonsu So you are completely unaware that the early Christians were often slaves? St Luke was a slave and he wrote a good portion of the New Testament. Sadly small minds like yours fail to grasp that the abolition of slavery came via Christian influence. Without said Christian influence the US and Europe and Canada would still have slaves as would most of the rest of the world. If you are trying to blame Christians for slavery you are delusional.

@hippyjoe1955 “So you are completely unaware that the early Christians were often slaves?” Very aware and obvious strawman you’re trying to pull. Like I said before you can’t stay on one topic once you’ve been called on your inconsistencies. Some christians were slaves, so what? That didn’t stop them from doing the very same evil that was done to their numbers in fact they amplified it into full blown cultural genocides.

“Sadly small minds like yours fail to grasp that the abolition of slavery came via Christian influence. “ Now we’re going straight into insults while leaving out how slave masters used the Bible to control slaves and have a whole handbook on it.

“Without said Christian influence the US and Europe and Canada would still have slaves as would most of the rest of the world. If you are trying to blame Christians for slavery you are delusional.” History revisionism at its finest. You conveniently leave out genocide done by the church. You have entire languages, traditions, families completely wiped out. 150000 indigenous children died in christian boarding schools in attempt to wipe out their culture. You people did not gain your following through christ consciousness, but through imperialism and brutality.

“ If you are trying to blame Christians for slavery you are delusional.”
I’ve said this at least 4 times in this thread that this post is about moral inconsistencies in the Bible and the excuses christians make for said moral inconsistencies. Nowhere am I blaming christians for slavery and all you’ve done the very thing I said Christian’s would do, make terrible excuses.

@Khonsu There are no moral inconsistencies in the Bible and you are the greater fool for thinking there are. You are simply a bigot.

@hippyjoe1955 The only bigot is the history revisionist that has been calling people out of their names throughout the thread. It’s funny how you keep claiming that there are no moral inconsistencies yet your holy book permits rape and slavery and your very arguments for it are so irrelevant to the context that you prove the very point of the op. You don’t try to address the actual verses you project your delusions on how you think things were.

@Khonsu your bigotry is beyond bounds and you look incredibly stupid trying to blame Christianity for your sin.

@hippyjoe1955 You keep saying I’m putting blame on Christian’s for slavery but you can’t even quote me on it you can’t even stay on topic so gotta keep throwing ad hominems, there’s no salvation for your ilk.

@Khonsu Only the oblivious to reality are oblivious to their bigotry. You son are an anti Christian bigot. Run along. You have worked long and hard to earn that title. You win. You're a bigot.

@hippyjoe1955 Your cognitive dissonance is so strong that you have to play the victim card instead reconciling with the moral inconsistencies your holy book. Show some accountability for once.

@Khonsu There is no moral inconsistency. Slavery is as old as humanity. The fact is that only Christianity holds that slaves are no less humans than freemen. You on the other hand think you can sit on Christian morality and judge Christianity. Talk about foolish. Look in a mirror.

@hippyjoe1955 “ There is no moral inconsistency. Slavery is as old as humanity.” No it isn’t, even by the biblical timeline that’s false. The point is to be moral standard or least close to what the moral standard should be, and when your laws resemble that of the “heathen nations” around you, you cannot claim divine guidance. Kidnapping is a sin worthy of death yet the Hebrews were never punished for kidnapping virgin girls as breeding stock.

@Khonsu Yawn please inform me as to which society did not have slaves.

@hippyjoe1955 The Incas, Australian Aboriginals, the Catalhoyuk. I can literally keep going

@Khonsu Wow but you are ignorant of fact. The incas not only had slaves they practiced human sacrifice. Do try harder son. Your credibility is below ZERO. TOO FUNNY!!! Such ignorance is blinding.

@hippyjoe1955 Those are the Aztecs you’re thinking of 🤦 and Yahweh took human sacrifices.

@Khonsu No those are the incas. The aztec did as well as has almost every culture at one point or another. Hell look at the West and our human sacrifice we call abortions. We have no high ground to stand upon.

@hippyjoe1955 The Incas did not have slavery. There’s literally not a shred of evidence you could pull out that they did. You are once again caught in another lie

@Khonsu There is tons of evidence that the Incas had slaves. You can't refute my allegation that we are engaged in human sacrifice. Nice try son. You lost the moral high ground already. Move along. Your hypocrisy is rampant.

@hippyjoe1955 “ There is tons of evidence that the Incas had slaves“ No there isn’t, saying that they did is not proof but an assertion that is not backed by anything. Provide proof of this.

“ You can't refute my allegation that we are engaged in human sacrifice. Nice try son. ” I’m not trying to

“You lost the moral high ground already. Move along. Your hypocrisy is rampant.” Because I didn’t say argue against the Incas doing human sacrifices, meanwhile you’re still holding on to the lie that the Incas had slavery which you are yet to prove and you yourself didn’t even say anything about the other civilizations I mentioned…