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1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

The most important verse in the Word of God. If they don't believe this verse, they'll never believe the rest. However, the Word of God is the only recorded document that gives testimony to early man's history. Skeptics on here have tried to come up with an alternate document to push evolution as recorded history to replace the Word of God but failed to do so. Instead, they resorted to ridicule, mocking, and just plain displayed an act stupidity. Why? If they can't produce anything to support what they think is the true history of early man, then why go through the trouble of acting stupid to discredit the early history recorded in the Word of God? It's not logical at all. Plus, it's a futile attempt to change what has already been established in the history of mankind. No offense, but this is what I've observed on here.
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MoonMoon · F
proof it that its the word of god and not the rumblings of some lunatic...

note that this isnt a proof for god or anything.. i am just questioning the legitimacy of the source
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@MoonMoon Regardless of the person who first expressed it it is the best scientific theory available. It is the only theory that answers all the questions. No other theory even comes close to that.
MoonMoon · F
@hippyjoe1955 its not a theory at all... and it explains nothing at all... just leads to questions like "what is a god" "why is there a god" "how can there be a god before a beginning"
GodSpeed63 · 70-79, M
@MoonMoon
proof it that its the word of god

2 Timothy 3:16 & 17 and 2 Peter 1: 20 & 21. God's Word and not ours.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@MoonMoon It is absolutely a scientific theory and as such no different than any other theory. Many scientists are coming to accept the creation theory based on the science they conduct.
MoonMoon · F
@GodSpeed63 you moving in a circle here.. a proves b and b proves a... thats no proof at all.

the bible isnt the word of a god.. its written by humans
MoonMoon · F
@hippyjoe1955 nothing is scientific about this at all.. its a claimn with nothing at all to back it up.
GodSpeed63 · 70-79, M
@MoonMoon
the bible isn't the word of a god.. its written by humans

That's not what it says in the Word of God. I'm taking God at His Word and not man at his word.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@MoonMoon It is absolutely scientific and a lot of very eminent scientists have realized it is the best theory we have to explain our existence. Ever hear of Sy Garte? He was raised atheist and became a doctor in biochemistry, He observed that the only explanation for the existence of life on earth is creation. Then he became a Christian.
MoonMoon · F
@GodSpeed63 you are being lied to... it is not the word of a god...
MoonMoon · F
@hippyjoe1955 quoting one obscure scientist out of millions or more qualified scientists is a bit hillarious.. i mean bio chemistry... not even quantum physics or astro physics ?
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@MoonMoon He is actually quite well known in his field. If you want a rock star scientist you could look up James Tour.
MoonMoon · F
@hippyjoe1955 dont want a rock star scientist i want someone who is an expert in the field they talk about... bio chemistry has nothing at all to do with the beginnig of the universe
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@MoonMoon Both of the men I mentioned are considered experts in their field and are doing cutting edge research. You don't want scientists you simply want someone who agrees with you.
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GodSpeed63 · 70-79, M
@MoonMoon
you are being lied to... it is not the word of a god...

My God is not a man that He should lie. When God tells the Truth, He's speaking His own Language.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@MoonMoon No it doesn't. It works in a way that each proponent and opponent fight to the death defending their belief system.
MoonMoon · F
@GodSpeed63 thats exactly my point.. you are lied to by other people who told you that book is the word of a god... while it is not... it was written by men
MoonMoon · F
@hippyjoe1955 science always shifts its paradigm when someone comes up with reasonable proof. thats what it makes so superior to any system based on belief. science always adjusts to the reality as we know it.
hell religious pseudo science is kinda stuck in 19th century science... thinking theories like evolution are questionable... science already moved on.
if you wanna challenge science with a religious taint... then i suggest you look into dark matter pr questions like if there will be a big crunch or a silent cold...
hell i would love to hear any religious input to quantum mechanics.. simple stuff like a double slit projection...
seriously i would really like some input on how religion explains these phenomens.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@MoonMoon except when it doesn't. The fact is that there are very serious scientists who have come to believe in Creationism because of the science. That there are many others who haven't proves nothing. The falsehood in your belief is that 'science' and 'religion' are complete opposites. They are not. Sound science indicates a Creator. Silly science believes in evolution.
MoonMoon · F
@hippyjoe1955 there is only one kid of science.. not different kinds... and the defining factor of science is being open for new knowledge as long as its supported by proof. anything without proof is just nonsense... so there is science or nonsense... and you either follow the science or whatever nonsense you want... but dont have the nerve to call that nonsense science.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@MoonMoon So why is your mind so closed? Not a scientist? I was doing science when I came to doubt what I had been taught in University and High School. I gained new insights that debunked the 'accepted science'. Sy Garte who is a much greater scientist than I will ever be said the same thing. He grew up atheist and due to his scientific inquiry realized that what he had learned before was completely inconsistent with what he came to know through his own study. To paraphrase his realization "as a biochemist he came to realize the chemicals do not evolve". My friend does medical research in the local university. She too came to realize that nothing she had been taught fit what she observed. She said that her research has become much more productive now that she has given up the idea that humans evolved and accepts the idea the humans were designed.
GodSpeed63 · 70-79, M
@MoonMoon
thats exactly my point.. you are lied to by other people who told you that book is the word of a god... while it is not... it was written by men

Not according to the Word of God. I go by what God says Himself and His Word. His Spirit lives within me since I became born again.
DocSavage · M
@GodSpeed63
Born again , and still didn’t get it right.
That’s why we need to keep abortion legal.