Skeptics, Where Is Your Evolution History?

@Nunatak Actually the main message of the first part, the majority of the book, seems to be “smite thy enemy, hard”.

@redredred good point 😂

@redredred @Nunatak [quote]Actually the main message of the first part, the majority of the book, seems to be “smite thy enemy, hard”.[/quote]

What does your world view have to with history recorded in the Word of God?

@GodSpeed63 you keep asking people about thier workd view.
What makes you think your world view has more relevence than other peoples?

@GodSpeed63 want to try that again in English?

@Nunatak [quote]What makes you think your world view has more relevence than other peoples?[/quote]

I don't have a world view. I do my best to view things from God's perspective rather than my own. If my belief doesn't line up with His Truth, then I need to change my belief so that it will line up with His Truth.

@GodSpeed63 you view things from gods perspective ?
Wow.....thats pretty impressive for a human .

And if you dont have a world view, why are you using an internet video to explain your point ? Isnt that a world view?

@Nunatak [quote]you view things from gods perspective ? Wow.....thats pretty impressive for a human .[/quote]

Jesus said we must be born again in order to see the kingdom of God. You've had a physical birth, now you need a Spiritual birth in order to Know God on a personal basis.

@GodSpeed63 and you feel that that spiritual birth enables you gods perspective ?

@Nunatak [quote]I wonder if god is happy that a tiny young creature of the universe is using a religious book based on him, imagines itself cognizant enough to debunk the magnificent complexity of his creation, to bring about agitation and argument amongst its fellow beings ?[/quote]

God is a million times more concerned about people who have heard about Him, His Word, His Plan of Salvation, yet totally reject Him and His plan to save mankind.

[quote]Isnt the main message in that book 'love thy brother'? [/quote]

He just did. He loved and cared enough about you, to tell you what no one else may ever share with you...God's plan of salvation. What if....on the other side....you suddenly found out he told you right? Well, by then, it would be too late to change your mind, and you rejected God's plan for salvation and now you [u]can't[/u] change your mind or position on that. This is the position you don't want to find yourself in. Because now, you've lost your ticket to heaven for eternity. Why? Not because of God. It was He that came to save you...us...all people...[u]not[/u] to put them in hell.

God never puts people in hell. But SIN does. God's Word said that sin always keeps us separated from God [u]until[/u] we repent. Now it's up to you and if you want to risk losing that choice. But you cannot step into heaven with sin on your spiritual shoes. This is what God wants all of us to know....how to be saved from the consequences and condemnation SIN has placed on us.

We're no smarter nor better than you or anyone else, but because we were once [u]spiritually[/u] blind and lost, but asked Jesus to come into our hearts and lives to be our personal Savior, He has kept His promise to save us and to give us eternal life in heaven with Him when we die. I don't know what's so bad about that. I don't know who would choose to allow sin to keep them separated from God forever, vs. asking Jesus to forgive us of our sins and to be our Savior, and inherit eternal life for our souls to rest in heaven, where there's nothing but joy, peace, love, and no death.

If we choose to do [u]nothing[/u] about the spiritual destination of our own soul, we [u]stay[/u] separated from God... forever. He is so Holy, He cannot even look upon sin and so we cannot go to heaven with our sins unforgiven.

This is not a game. Not a rehearsal. We don't call the shots here. There's God, His Son, and His Holy Spirit, in heaven, that loves you more than anything else in the whole universe, and wants to save you and make SURE that you get to heaven. And we do that by following God's standard for salvation. Not man's. He turns no one away. The choice has to be [b]this[/b] side of heaven. [i]Before[/i] you cross over. It's one thing you don't want to get wrong.

@LadyGrace Please dont try and convert me, i already have my own personal relationship with the great creator.

I appreciate your effort, but not the sentiment i need saving by your standard of belief.
I feel god cares about everyone, how we interact, what we do, and what we feel
We all choose our own path.

Thanks for the concern though.

@Nunatak I couldn't save you if I wanted to. I'm not here for that. I feel you didn't read everything I wrote because you would not have accused me of trying to save you. And you would know that I said that people are not saved by my ideas, thoughts, or standard, but by the Lord's. You had questions under this post and I was addressing those.

The Lord told his disciples, when He resurrected to heaven, to share the good news of his plan of salvation and that's all I'm doing is sharing. No one has to listen. God loves us all the same. If you had read my whole message, you would see that it is not I, that says you need saving. It is Jesus, by His standard for salvation.

Whether you want His Plan or not, that's up to you. You told me what you believe and I told you what I believe, so I will leave you with that. Thank you for speaking civally. I wish everyone was so kind, and I wish you the very best, no matter what choices you make in life. I pray God will protect you and your loved ones and keep you all happy and healthy. 🤗

@Nunatak [quote]and you feel that that spiritual birth enables you gods perspective ?[/quote]

That's why I wrote you, as you didn't seem clear on what we believe, so I wanted to tell you why it is we believe what we do.

@Nunatak [quote]and you feel that that spiritual birth enables you gods perspective ? [/quote]

There's only one God that lives forever. His Spirit enables me to view His perfect perspective.

@GodSpeed63 if you feel that is true, then thats your truth.
Ive just never heard another single person say that they had the perspective of a.god .

@LadyGrace Thankyou. But @GodSpeed63 has made it clear what he means by those words .

I apprecate your input, but everyone is different, and each has their own bent on their meaning.
I got his, and now i understand better how he sees himself and his opinion.

@Nunatak [quote] if you feel that is true, then thats your truth.[/quote]

Truth doesn't work that way. Truth is for everyone and no one can own it or change it. like history itself, truth has been established once and for all and nothing or nobody can change it.

@GodSpeed63And i now understand that you believe your truth is the only truth.
And thats ok man .
If you accept that you have found the one and only truth, and need never search any further or deeper, then good for you.

@Nunatak [quote]And i now understand that you believe your truth is the only truth[/quote]

If you believe that, then you lack understanding of what Truth is.

@GodSpeed63 so you dont believe the truth you adhere to, to be the only truth?

@Nunatak [quote]so you dont believe the truth you adhere to, to be the only truth?[/quote]

Those are your words, not mine.

@GodSpeed63 hehehe.
Nup. You claim your perception is the only truth. You can't even accept a respectful passive retreat.

Your need to argue is so strong.
Ahh, that was funny.😂

@Nunatak [quote]You claim your perception is the only truth.[/quote]

Wrong again. It's not my perception that matters here but God's perception is what really matters here.