Skeptics, Where Is Your Evolution History?

@AbbySvenz
[b][quote]How do we know it is God's word and not mans?
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1. He himself said it, and no man took credit. He told us the timeline of humanity so we can be prepared for what's coming. No man knows the future besides God.
2.Before civilizations were destroyed, he told us they would be. He told us Babylon would be destroyed, and it was, he told us Damascus would be destroyed and it was, he told us the Jews would be scattered all over the world and they were. He told us they would be hated and killed by some and they were, He told us that they would get the country back and they did. Daniel told us when Jesus would come and he did, he told us when he is coming back, and he will.,
3.. He visited us and proved he is God in the flesh, how? When he proved he can forgive sin by raising people from the dead, healing the blind and the handicapped instantly.
4. He changes hearts forever, and heals families when we obey and forgive.
5 He answers our prayers.
6. He told us what we can expect before he comes back in the last generation, and we see those signs now.
7. He asks us to test him so he can prove that his words are for real. I have and I know they are. (Look at my miracle post, its my 5th post)
8. Test him and he will prove himself to you. Give 10%[i] first [/i] to a Christian mission and see how he blesses you. He knows its hard for us to give away our money. It is a test.
9. The disciples were eye witnesses and they were willing to die before they would deny that they saw Jesus raised from the dead, and raised up into the clouds.
10 Look at the sunrise, can you make a sunrise so beautiful? We can see that he is an amazing creator, and that he loves us. He shed his blood for us because he loves us.

[b][quote]Josh 1:8
"Do not let this book of the law depart from your lips, meditate on it day and night, observe to do all that is written in it. Then you will make your way prosperous, and have good success."[/quote][/b]

I repeat: “Because the Bible says so” is not proof @Carazaa

@Carazaa You can't use the quotes from the Bible to prove the Bible is true.

@JimboSaturn [quote]You can't use the quotes from the Bible to prove the Bible is true.[/quote]

Why not?

@AbbySvenz [b]Think again! People willing to be[i] beheaded [/i]to prove they saw Jesus go up in the clouds is [i]more [/i]than words, that is action! [/b]

Crazy, is what it is @Carazaa

@GodSpeed63 because that is circular

@Carazaa People are willing to kill and die for all sorts of things that are not real.

@AbbySvenz

[b]Peter and Paul[/b]
Both martyred in Rome about 66 AD, during the persecution under Emperor Nero. Paul was beheaded. Peter was crucified, upside down at his request, since he did not feel he was worthy to die in the same manner as his Lord.

[b]Andrew[/b]
went to the "land of the man-eaters," in what is now the Soviet Union. Christians there claim him as the first to bring the gospel to their land. He also preached in Asia Minor, modern-day Turkey, and in Greece, where he is said to have been crucified.

[b]Thomas[/b]
was probably most active in the area east of Syria. Tradition has him preaching as far east as India, where the ancient Marthoma Christians revere him as their founder. They claim that he died there when pierced through with the spears of four soldiers.

[b]Philip[/b]
possibly had a powerful ministry in Carthage in North Africa and then in Asia Minor, where he converted the wife of a Roman proconsul. In retaliation the proconsul had Philip arrested and cruelly put to death.

[b]Matthew[/b]
the tax collector and writer of a Gospel ministered in Persia and Ethiopia. Some of the oldest reports say he was not martyred, while others say he was stabbed to death in Ethiopia.

[b]Bartholomew[/b]
had widespread missionary travels attributed to him by tradition: to India with Thomas, back to Armenia, and also to Ethiopia and Southern Arabia. There are various accounts of how he met his death as a martyr for the gospel.

[b]James[/b]
the son of Alpheus is one of at least three James referred to in the New Testament. There is some confusion as to which is which, but this James is reckoned to have ministered in Syria. The Jewish historian Josephus reported that he was stoned and then clubbed to death.


[b]Simon the Zealot[/b]
so the story goes, ministered in Persia and was killed after refusing to sacrifice to the sun god.

[b]Matthias[/b]
The apostle chosen to replace Judas. Tradition sends him to Syria with Andrew and to death by burning.

[b]John[/b]
The only one of the apostles generally thought to have died a natural death from old age. He was the leader of the church in the Ephesus area and is said to have taken care of Mary the mother of Jesus in his home. During Domitian's persecution in the middle '90s, he was exiled to the island of Patmos. There he is credited with writing the last book of the New Testament--the Revelation. An early Latin tradition has him escaping unhurt after being cast into boiling oil at Rome.

[b]People are missionaries today, and many Muslims are becoming Christians today and suffer terrible persecution in their Muslim families.
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[b]People are refugees from non-Christian countries and pouring into the Christian countries like never before, and Russia, China, and North Korea are persecuting their own people for following Christ![/b]


The names of Jesus' apostles have become the most common names for males in the Western world. How many do you know named John, Pete, Tom, Andy, Jim, Bart, Mark, Luke, or Phil


After the death of the apostles, the faith continued to spread like wildfire -- even though Christianity was declared an illegal religion in many countries. His truth is marching on!.

And none of that proves that what is written in the Bible is the “Word of God” @Carazaa

@AbbySvenz @JimboSaturn [quote]I’m still waiting for definitive proof that your “Word of God” is actually the words of a god.[/quote]

I’m still waiting for you to come with alternative historical records that show the accounts in the Word of God to be myths..

@GodSpeed63 You never answered my question about my telescope. The records are everywhere , fossil records, DNA, carbon dating, the universe itself.

@JimboSaturn [quote] You never answered my question about my telescope.[/quote]

You never answered mine on historical records. All those you gave point to the living God and His Word being true.

@GodSpeed63 There is no need for historical records of people writing things down when all the evidence in existence points to a very old universe. There are civilizations like the Incas around the same time as the Bible that do not mention creation as explained in the Bible. Every pre-literate society has creation myths.

Everyone now accepts facts and evidence instead of 4,000 year old stories.

So how about the telescope. Should be an easy answer for you.

@JimboSaturn [quote]There is no need for historical records [/quote]

Then you agree that the accounts recorded in the Word of God are true.

How come written records from places like China and India make no mention of Biblical events? A worldwide flood is not the sort of thing that would go unnoticed and unmentioned 🤔@GodSpeed63

@GodSpeed63 No, I just said, although there are other civilizations like the Inca, Aztecs, Chinese that have other creation myths, one does not need writing historical documentation when the natural world provides a plethora of evidence to support and old universe.

You still haven't answered my telescope question.

@JimboSaturn [quote]No, I just said, although there are other civilizations like the Inca, Aztecs, Chinese[/quote]

That's still no excuse not to come with an alternative historical record to support what you think is historical than those recorded in the Word of God.

@GodSpeed63 Do you read? There is, the Chinese, Incas, Aztecs, Indian civilizations, as well as native American.

The real historical record is in the fossils, the universe, DNA etc.. where it is not subject to error like passed down oral myths.

For example my telescope question, how can the universe be only 6,000 years old when I can see galaxies that are millions of light years away in my telescope, so it took millions of years for the light to come from those stars to reach earth?

If you do not answer this, or answer in any other way, you have conceded defeat to everyone on SW.

@JimboSaturn [quote]Do you read? There is, the Chinese, Incas, Aztecs, Indian civilizations, as well as native American. [/quote]

So?

@GodSpeed63
"I’m still waiting for you to come with alternative historical records that show the accounts in the Word of God to be myths."
The purpose of Science isn´t at all to disprove (and neither to prove) the narrative of any faith.
If it happens, so be it.

@ElRengo [quote]The purpose of Science isn´t at all to disprove (and neither to prove) the narrative of any faith.
If it happens, so be it.[/quote]

I'm talking about science, science points to God. I'm talking about those who try to fit science into their world views as a means to change the historical events established in the Word of God.