Skeptics, Where Is Your Evolution History?

@ServantOfTheGoddess That makes sense. We cannot use a religious text to challenge scientific findings.

@ServantOfTheGoddess And ancient universe is standard dogma to most Christians, only the Ken Hams don't believe it.

@ServantOfTheGoddess [quote]The Bible isn't a science textbook![/quote]

It's more than that. There is no evidence for evolution and you still haven't come up with any kind of historical records that show the accounts in the Word of God to be myths.

@GodSpeed63 Any thing as fantastical as talking serpents and people living to be 1,000 years old is a myth. How about any historical records that show that any other myths are false?

What I'm interested in is scientific fact, how can I see things billions of light years away when the universe is only 6,000 years old?

@JimboSaturn [quote]Any thing as fantastical as talking serpents and people living to be 1,000 years old is a myth.[/quote]

You're still not coming up with any records from people who lived during those times. Your world views don't count here.

@GodSpeed63 Just answered it, now how about my telescope?

@JimboSaturn [quote]Just answered it,[/quote]

Just answered what? Your world views are not science.

@GodSpeed63 You can't answer any questions

@ServantOfTheGoddess I agree, and I'd say further than that.

Obviously no-one can prove the existence or not of any creative deity, but if there is one, then what Science is showing is that His / Her / Its creation is orders of magnitude older, greater, more majestic, complicated, wonderful and beautiful than the Creationists want everyone to believe.

That model positing the Cosmos as a sort of Divine magic-trick only a few thousand years ago, is as arid as the Sinai Desert sand. It is not even ancient. It was invented in the 17C by Archbishop Ussher applying weak assumptions to weak geneology. He thought 4000 years from his sums, but probably, genuinely had not known that there were already established civilisations on Earth well before the Hebrews and their Zoroastrian forefathers in Persia.

Indeed, if I were a practicing Christian, I would regard fanatical, Ussher-based, Biblical literalism frankly insulting not only my intelligence, but worse, insulting the very God it pretends to be protecting from we who want to [i]understand [/i] His works.

One has to wonder at its motives....

@GodSpeed63 It isn't my job to come up with evidence for evolution or any other current scientific consensus. Generations of scientists, thousands and thousands of people working as much as possible without preconceptions, have already done that. It's just bizarre that you're saying there isn't the evidence. I respect you if you want to reject it because it contradicts your dogma, but I don't see how you can pretend it isn't there!

@ArishMell WOW! you really said it all. Spot on sir.

@Grateful4you Thank you!

@ServantOfTheGoddess [quote]It isn't my job to come up with evidence for evolution or any other current scientific consensus. Generations of scientists, thousands and thousands of people working as much as possible without preconceptions, have already done that.[/quote]

No they haven't. You forget, their world views are never science, they're only guessing and not certain of what they believe to be the truth in science.

@GodSpeed63 Science never claims certainty.

@ServantOfTheGoddess [quote]Science never claims certainty.[/quote]

That's right, but God does have authority on certainty and we can believe what He is certain is sound.

@GodSpeed63
I did

And you still owe me a light year

@JimboSaturn
He never does. Same thing every time. Post bullshit video. Refuses to answer anything after that.

@GodSpeed63
" Your world views are not science"
No personal individual testimony is by itself Science.
But Science as we know it began when research could be done as authonomous form First Philosophies and focused in the facts of the natural world.
Some thousands of years of speculation gave no ressults in terms of a descrition of the universe.
Some few hundreds of years of Science did it better.

@ElRengo [quote]Some thousands of years of speculation gave no results in terms of a discretion of the universe.
Some few hundreds of years of Science did it better.[/quote]

Science is wonderful tool for knowledge given to us by God to study His creation and how He's made it work. Science itself cannot change history, what has taken place has taken place. The historical events that took place in the times that the Word of God was written, cannot be altered by anyone.

@GodSpeed63
Sure they can.
Tyre is still standing, despite god said it would be destroyed

@ServantOfTheGoddess Science never claims certainty, but God does. I think we can resolve the "humans coming from apes" right now. God created man, in His image. Not from animals. God created people to reflect His image, to rule [i]over[/i] creation, and to reproduce godly offspring. But man messed that up when he chose to sin.

Humans didn’t come from chimpanzees, though 🤷‍♀️@LadyGrace

@ServantOfTheGoddess That is not accurate. I don't know of even one Christian that believes in evolution. We are not fine with that because that's not what the Bible teaches.

@AbbySvenz I'm perfectly aware of that. I just got in a hurry and put chimpanzees.

@LadyGrace @AbbySvenz [quote]Science never claims certainty, but God does.[/quote]

That is true. God gave us science to study His creation and how He's made it all work. People tend to abuse science as they do with definition of evolution. In doing so, they become blind to God's workmanship and are not willing to see His grand design in His creation.