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Skeptics, Where Is Your Evolution History?

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Since you failed to produce any kind of accounts to combat the accounts recorded in the Word of God, then the accounts in the Word of God are still true and are not myths.
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Carazaa · F
The world is 6000 years old[i] now. [/i]

We know this because every family name is mentioned from Adam to Jesus in the book of Mathew chapter one, and 2 other places in the Bible. And Jesus, God's Son, shed his blood for all our sins, and rose 2000 years ago. that is 6000 total!

2 Peter 3:8 “But do not forget this one thing dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years is like a day.” and he says there will be peace on day 7 and we are going into day 7 any day, praise God!.

Jesus is coming on day 3 he said, He rose very early the third day, and we are going into day 3 any day now from Jesus first coming. He rose about year 28-30

He said "When the Gospel has gone out to every nation, tribe, and language, that's the end.

And he would keep the tribulation short for his own's sake.

I believe Jesus is coming any day to judge the living and the dead. And take us home if we love him! Praise God!
SW-User
@Carazaa
This cannot be true. [quote]A thousand years is like a day to God, and he says there will be peace on day 7 and we are going into day 7 any day, praise God!.
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If thousand years is like a day to God, then Adam was created after 5000 years ( Please check the snapshot of this video). Since Adam, only a thousand years is passed if we are to believe that we are yet to go into the 7th day. Jesus is said to have born around 2000 year back. So then Adam to Jesus to present timeline is somewhere flawed.
Carazaa · F
@SW-User

Thank you for asking more about this. The 7-day week is a mini model of the entire timeline of the history of man and a timeline of the Bible in its entirety; from when God made the world, to when he comes back.

God did not have to make the world in 6 days and rest on day 7. So why did he do that?

He did that to show his power, and to make a mini timeline of the entire human lifetime for us so we know where we[i] are[/i] in history and to know what comes next. God is good and does not leave us in the dark.

From Adam to Abraham is 2000 years, from Abraham to Jesus is 2000 years, from Jesus to now is 2000 years. That is 6000 years. After that comes rest from this world because Jesus is coming back.

2 Peter 3

[quote][b]The Day of the Lord[/b]
3 Dear friends, this is now my second letter to you. I have written both of them as reminders to stimulate you to wholesome thinking. 2 I want you to recall the words spoken in the past by the holy prophets and the command given by our Lord and Savior through your apostles.

3 Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4 They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.” 5 But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 6 By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. 7 By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.

8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. 9 The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything done in it will be laid bare.[a]

11 Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives 12 as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming.[b] That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. 13 But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells.

14 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him. 15 Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. 16 He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

17 Therefore, dear friends, since you have been forewarned, be on your guard so that you may not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure position. 18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.


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SW-User
@Carazaa Thank you for those 18 points. I guess this is some communication you received from some priest. I do not deny any of these points. I have absolutely no knowledge about Bible.
I liked the way you related the 7 day of creation to the 7 days of the week. That sounded interesting and made sense too. I do not deny the 7 days of creation theory too.

However the point I was mentioning was not about creation or salvation. You have elaborated the 6000 years, which I agree( as per this video). I have taken a snapshot from the video shared in this post(Please find the same below).
Now if Adam to Jesus to now is 6000 years ( which happened on the 6th day) , what about the previous 5 days ? In that sense it clearly proves that 6 Days of creation is not equivalent to 6000 years. So that argument is flawed.
Carazaa · F
@SW-User
I am not a Catholic, I just read the Bible, but I do listen to some preachers and Bible scholars, and we are finding out new information all the time from Gods word especially about Gods timetable. Jesus said that knowledge would increase in the last days. I try to understand Gods meaning. What happened the first 5 days? He worked! He did a lot he created the heavens and the earth, If he can work we should too.
SW-User
@Carazaa [quote]What happened the first 5 days? He worked! He did a lot he created the heavens and the earth, .[/quote]
Agreed. He created heavens and the earth. But point is that atleast 5000 years have passed by then (if one day of God is 1000 years as you had mentioned before). This again doesn't sound logical because we saw 6th day itself is more than 6000 years.
[quote]If he can work we should too[/quote]
I agree. We should work. Finally our work is what that matters.
Carazaa · F
@SW-User

God created the days in 24 hour periods, a day is like a thousand years in history. God created life on the 5th day (a 24 hr period). And it represents life last 1000 years.

Genesis 1 [quote]"20 And God said, “Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the vault of the sky.” 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living thing with which the water teems and that moves about in it, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth.” 23[b] And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.
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24 And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.

26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

27 So God created mankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them.

28 God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground.”

29 Then God said, “I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds in the sky and all the creatures that move along the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food.” And it was so.

31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good[b]. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day."[/b]

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SW-User
@Carazaa [quote]God created the days in 24 hour periods, a day is like a thousand years in history. God created life on the 5th day (a 24 hr period). And it represents life last 1000 years.[/quote]

If that is the case then either the 7 day creation theory doesn't make any sense ( which can't be as per Christian religious belief) or the age of earth is not just 6000 years ( this could be because even there is no proper Biblical reference anyone has quoted to substantiate this argument).

If a day is strictly like a 1000 years in history Adam to Jesus to now should be approximately 1000 years. That is not the case and hence the earth has to be way older than 6000 years.
Carazaa · F
@SW-User No its 6000 years from Adam to now according to the Bible if we study the Bible carefully. God tells us the name of every family until Jesus. Read Matthew 1.
SW-User
@Carazaa I agree that Bible do mention it is somewhere over 6000 years from Adam to now( That's what the video says). However if that is true then the earth is way older than 6000 years. Both cannot be true at the same time because it is mathematically invalid.
Carazaa · F
@SW-User I am sorry, God is using his 24 hour, 7 day creation to show us his 7000 year time line, as well as to show us how to work and when to rest. God does this over and over in the Bible, usually telling a story 3 or 4 times in different ways. It can take a few years to understand a passage. It took until just recently to understand the Bible timeline, because Daniels books meaning was recently revealed to us by God. This generation has learned what no other generation knew. God hid it. Now it is relevant.
SW-User
@Carazaa That sounds interesting. Wonder how God is revealing things 2000 years after Jesus. Is Daniel still living? Agreed Bible might represent some complex concepts, which need multiple readings. Having said that I disagree with the 7000 year time line ( To me it looks like a human misinterpretation.)
[quote]God is using his 24 hour, 7 day creation to show us his 7000 year time line, as well as to show us how to work and when to rest[/quote]
I am hoping that with more and more meanings being uncovered and the continuing revelations, it is quite possible that even Christians might agree that the Bible support the evolution theory in days to come.
Carazaa · F
@SW-User
You can hope all you want but the Bible is exact in its timeline. People who say oh the Bible is vague just don't read it in detail. People don't really trust that God inspired every word. Scientists are highly influenced by other scientists.

God puts us through a test in this life. He tested Adam and Eve. He tested Job, and he tests us! I will err on the side of trusting God. If I am wrong i am wrong. I just can't take a chance on being wrong and facing Jesus and feel ashamed, nope I take him at his word.

God is revealing a lot by his spirit for those who ask him for truth!
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Carazaa Amen, sister, amen.
SW-User
@Carazaa I am not hoping or assuming anything, instead drawing the most logical conclusion out of whatever data you and the video in this post explained.
If humans are created on the 6th Day ( 24 hours day, simultaneously stating that it is equivalent to a 1000 years), and also stating that Adam to now is 6000 years. Irrespective of whether it is a 24 hour day or a day equivalent to a 1000 years, it is absolutely clear that earth being around 6000 years old is a false claim. It is just a basic Math and not very difficult to arrive to a conclusion. I would be interested if you could provide me a clear reasoning. I am not saying that Bible is vague or what Bible says is wrong and I respect your belief, however unfortunately so far during my discussion whoever supports this 6000 year old earth claim couldn't provide me a valid reasoning.
I appreciate the references you shared though. However I am sorry to say that it didn't answer my question.
I also do not want to interfere in anyone's matter of faith or religious belief and I am not trying to test God or the Bible. Comments were out of curiosity and I am sorry if it hurt anyone's sentiments.
Carazaa · F
@SW-User Don't trust me, study the Bible for yourself.
SW-User
There is nothing to mistrust, @Carazaa . It is quite possible that you have a deeper understanding on this topic than me.
Carazaa · F
@SW-User Thank you, that is very kind of you! 🙏 I am not here to prove anyone wrong, but to share what God has done in my life so people can be blessed like I have been blessed.
@Carazaa do you believe this planet is as old as civilisation?

Do you not ever consider that geneisis may be an over simplified rendition of a very time consuming process, that, although would be nothing in the time frame of god, would be too mind boggling for an early civilisation to perceive?
SW-User
Thank you @Carazaa . Your thoughts and intentions are very good.
Carazaa · F
@SW-User Thank you so much. 🌺 May God richly bless you 🙏
Carazaa · F
@Nunatak The Bible is the most amazing book, and too complicated and prophetic for man to have written it, absolutely impossible! Scholars with PHD's and the most educated understand that this book is given to humanity from God! And the most blessed people in the world, and the most blessed countries in the world are Christian countries!
SW-User
Thank you very much @Carazaa 🤗 . May God richly bless you too 🙏
Carazaa · F
@SW-User Awww thank you! ❤️ 🙏 🕊️