Jesus sets us free from the condemnation sin placed on us, and restores us to a rightful relationship with God.

@Ryannnnnn Jesus never came to find fault with us. He only came to rescue us from the condemnation sin brought on us, when sin entered the world. Look at this, if you will.

@LadyGrace But the idea is that we're all born into sin, and that's what I disagree with.

@Ryannnnnn I understand. We'll understand things better when we cross over. I do, however, agree with Jesus. We can see the effects of sin, in this evil in the world, and this tells us why we need Jesus. I love this particular verse, which tells of his mission on earth:

@Ryannnnnn He didn't come to condemn. What does God say about it? For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God...until...they invite Jesus into their heart and life, as their personal Savior, asking Jesus to forgive them of their sins. That is something we all must do, as we cannot do that ourselves.

@LadyGrace See I can forgive myself for things I've done that I'm not happy with, and I do that through action and living my lessons. Anybody can ask for forgiveness, but people have to live it or it means nothing.

@Ryannnnnn You sure got that right, but as far as salvation is concerned, God said he is the one that sets that standard for redemption of sins, not man.

@LadyGrace I'm good on the idea of salvation but thanks.

@Ryannnnnn How do you know? Although I wasn't trying to convince you. Just answering you. Your choices are definitely up to you.

@LadyGrace I know cus I know myself. Yeah I get it, not trying to argue like.

@Ryannnnnn Yes, I know you are not. But I don't understand what you are saying when you say you know yourself, because God said we can't save ourselves, apart from Him. Thus, the purpose of His coming. More specifically, here's what he said....



So he's saying here, right?, that our eternal security depends on our trusting Him, instead of ourselves, or why would God the Father, have appointed Jesus as "our only Mediator" between God and man? Why would we need a Mediator in order to communicate with God, if we could save ourselves from our sin? Just saying. Don't be mad at me, ok? 😄

@LadyGrace Well somebody wrote that, I just don't agree with it. And saved from what? like I said I don't agree with the concept of sin so there's nothing to be saved from in my perspective.

@Ryannnnnn There is, actually, and everyone is in the same spiritual boat, not just one or two of us. Spiritually speaking, we can see the sin in this world and how it affects us all, so it does exist, and as a result, sin keeps us separated from God in heaven, until we ask Him to forgive us. And then, we're fit to step foot in a Holy heaven. God said so, in John 3:16 But....it is 6:25 am, and this old gal has yet to get some sleep! 😂😂😂 Thanks for being nice to me. Nite. 😊

@LadyGrace In your opinion lol. Have a good night!.

@Ryannnnnn No. It's what Jesus said about himself, in His Word. Not me. John 3:16 and 17. Jesus volunteered to lay down his life, to pay for the sins of the world, because in the spiritual world, sin always brings a death penalty with it. It keeps one condemned and separated from God the Father, until we ask God to forgive us, which he does, and remembers them no more. We can't drag our sins into heaven with us. God the Father is so Holy, He cannot even look upon sin. Not until Jesus forgives them, because His Father approved Jesus as being the only Mediator between God and man who was worthy enough to cover our sins, being He is without sin. In the spiritual realm, the blood of Jesus is the only thing that has the power to wash away our sins. Jesus said that. Anyway, I don't want to bother you further.