Humans Evolved and That's That - DeBunked

@SW-User We are still to expose darkness and debunk false theories and ideas, theories and ideas that lead people astray. When we do expose them, we can lead many people closer to God, but in some sense I agree with you about trying to prove things, because, like I said in this thread to someone else:
Evolution being false does not prove the God of the Bible to be true, but I am a finite being, as all of us are and God is an infinite God, so if I could fit the infinite God into my 3 pound brain, He wouldn't be worth worshipping. We are a species who can only detect a fraction of a fraction of the electromagnetic spectrum and know under 5 percent of what is in the observable universe, so how could we possibly fit a God who is beyond space time and matter into our box of "evidence" and "proof" anyway? Also, consider this: if we had ultimate proof that the God of the Bible was true, then He would not be a just God. You know why? Because if we had 100% proof then we would have no choice to accept or reject Him; we would be forced into believing Him, which would make God a dictator in the sky holding us on strings as mere angelic robots on repeat. It is impossible to please God without faith. Faith gives us free will and choice.

@SW-User
You're right. Faith does come from within. I not only believe in God but I have His Spirit within me since I became born again. I share what I know to be the Truth of God with these skeptics and allow God to do the rest.

@SW-User @GodSpeed63 I agree with what is said about God being infinite but thinking that the purpose of faith is to “debunk false theories that lead people astray and guide them away from the darkness” is not very different from that of extremists like ISIS who see everyone who don’t agree with their ideas as infidels; one would rather use this energy to work on their personal relationship with God

@SW-User It is one of the purposes of our faith; it should be a big part of the Christians life in faith. Our faith should serve a purpose to others. God said that we need to work out our faith with fear and trembling. So, we need to work out that which God worked in us. God wants us to be a benefit to others. Jesus Christ Himself testified of the evil works of the world and wants us to do the same. He wants us to be as wise as serpents and harmless as doves. He wants us to know the enemies devices and give an answer for why we believe what we believe. Working on our personal relationship with God is very important, but we are also to convert others, as Jesus Christ commanded us to do so by going into all the world and preaching the gospel to EVERY CREATURE. He that winneth souls is wise.

Saying that leading people away from darkness is no different than ISIS is absolutely absurd and I wouldn't say you are very misguided.

Pulling people out of the dark is true love and care and if you aren't conference about this, you have no true love for anyone.

I don't mean to offend here, but you should think deeply about whether or not you've found the right Jesus. Because the only right Jesus is the one in the Bible. The Bible talks about those who preach another Jesus or a false Jesus.

@SW-User My point is you can’t force people to believe in God they have their own journey, equating preaching to random people with pulling them out of the darkness sounds more like a delusion, not sure where I asked if I found the right God or not lmao

@SW-User
Remember what I said about narcissistic people.
You were most likely raised in your faith from day one. You may truly believe in it on an independent level as well. But there other religions, of which you have very limited knowledge of. What gives you the right to decide if part or all is right or wrong in regards to virtue, morality, or spiritual value ?
It’s the message that matters, not the messenger..

@SW-User No one ever said anything about forcing others. Not sure where you're getting this. Read again what I wrote. Christians are given the ministry of reconciliation after they are saved. When we preach the gospel and they accept it, we have reconciled them to God. It's amazing and powerful because God's Word is powerful. If you want to call preaching and pulling people out of the darkness a delusion, then you're calling the Bible a delusion.

You didn't ask, I am asking if you found the right Jesus, because much of what you say runs contrary to what He said in His Word and Jesus said my sheep hear my voice.

@SW-User I don’t answer to organised religion so none of those rules apply to me, and preaching only makes sense when they are called to learn, the student only finds the teacher when they’re ready, otherwise these so called preachers are wasting their time trying to force their beliefs on random people

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A final thought before I call it a night.
If god created us with free will, then it would be unfair of him to punish us for using it.
The only value it could be to him is in feed back. Even in rebellion, he gets a different point of view, a new perspective. If all his actions and deeds were perfect, Lucifer wouldn’t have rebelled, and Adam and Eve would still be in Eden.
Change is progress.

@SW-User Do you or do you not believe on the Jesus Christ of the Bible?

@SW-User
Once and for all. The bible is just another book of myths and fables.
Jesus may have been based on a real person in part, but that’s all. The magic isn’t there for me.

@SW-User https://youtu.be/Rxu-SeaLmlo

@DocSavage You are just full of assumptions, aren't you? Nah. Wasn't raised in it. I came to it through my own reading and research. It would not be unfair, as free will agents have consequences to their actions. The only thing that would be unfair is if God didn't create us with free will and we were slaves.

@SW-User Not sure why the question is funny. It's very serious. It's really quite a simple question. Can you please answer?

@SW-User well the song did as the real God is within

@SW-User Okay, then I will take that as you reject the true Jesus Christ of the Bible.

@SW-User do you think you’re my boss or smth I don’t need to prove myself lmao

@SW-User No. I was just asking a question and you won't answer it for some reason.

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No more than you are.

@Emosaur I am a finite being, as all of us are and God is an infinite God, so if I could fit the infinite God into my 3 pound brain, He wouldn't be worth worshipping. We are a species who can only detect a fraction of a fraction of the electromagnetic spectrum and know under 5 percent of what is in the observable universe, so how could we possibly fit a God who is beyond space time and matter into our box of "evidence" and "proof" anyway? Also, consider this: if we had ultimate proof that the God of the Bible was true, then He would not be a just God. You know why? Because if we had 100% proof then we would have no choice to accept or reject Him; we would be forced into believing Him, which would make God a dictator in the sky holding us on strings as mere angelic robots on repeat. It is impossible to please God without faith. Faith gives us free will and choice.

@SW-User Science goes for 95% for factual claims. Also human are toolmakers. We now have machines that can detect all of the electromagnetic spectrum. Is there a wavelength to observe? Maybe your god likes hiding. You told us about deception and lies.

@SW-User Not everyone wants to hear about your god. Maybe they already believe in what they know to be the true god and you're just trying to drag them away from "the truth". Those of us who neither need nor believe in gods don't want yours forced on us either.

@SW-User
Doesn’t matter. Where you or when you found Jesus. I’m not looking for him