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Question: As a creationist, how can you recognize a transitional fossil? Answer: when creationists can't agree which "kind" the specimen belongs to. [Spirituality & Religion]

A transitional fossil should show features which belong to the ancestral group and features which belong to the descendant group.
Creationists necessarily deny that these fossils exist but they expose the lie in their own argument when between them they cannot agree which "kind" a given fossils belongs in.
Is an Archaeopteryx a bird kind or a dinosaur kind? It has a mosaic of characteristics which makes it both.
Where do we draw the line between human kind and ape kind?

Well creationists just can't agree with each other which proves the fact that their features are so mosaic that they do indeed represent a transitional form between "kinds".


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GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
When scientists are stumped by the fossil being whole instead of transitional.
OggggO · 36-40, M
@GodSpeed63 I'm guessing you don't know what "transitional" means?
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@OggggO [quote]I'm guessing you don't know what "transitional" means?[/quote]

You'd be wrong.
@GodSpeed63

[quote]When scientists are stumped by the fossil being whole instead of transitional.[/quote]

Ok, without googling it, give me a definition of what you think is meant by "transitional fossil" in a scientific sense.
And of course you know that i will be asking "with God as your witness, did you google that" so you know...keep it honest😉
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu [quote]Ok, without googling it, give me a definition of what you think is meant by "transitional fossil" in a scientific sense.[/quote]

What does it mean to you, how do you see it?
@GodSpeed63

I asked you first. A straight answer this time, please. If you refuse to answer this will be a tacit admission that you spoke without understanding the term you were using.
So again, straight answer to a straight question: without googling it, give me a definition of what you think is meant by "transitional fossil" in a scientific sense.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu [quote]I asked you first.[/quote]

I don't care what you think a transitional fossil is. There are none in the fossil record and that is the truth. That's all I need to know about.
@GodSpeed63

[quote]I don't care what you think a transitional fossil is[/quote]

...then why did you ask?:
[quote]What does it mean to you, how do you see it?[/quote]

Lol don't worry about it bud. I know this will not at any point transform into a productive debate so i'm just gonna let you go here.

You do you
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu [quote]...then why did you ask?:[/quote]

Since you asked me, I just wanted to see where you were from with your question.

[quote]don't worry about it bud. [/quote]

Now, whatever gave you the idea that was worried?

[quote]I know this will not at any point transform into a productive debate [/quote]

That's too bad that you are willing to give up so easy.
@GodSpeed63

[quote]That's too bad that you are willing to give up so easy.[/quote]

lol yeah it's called [i]experience[/i], lil fella. You teach people how to treat you.
But prove me wrong.

Answer the question i asked you and we'll have our debate.
Refuse to answer it and justify my choice to dismiss you.

What's a transitional fossil? After all, you can't really argue that there are none or what they mean or how to differentiate them....if you don't actually know what they are.

Go ahead.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@GodSpeed63 [quote]There are none in the fossil record[/quote]

[b]Every[/b] fossil is a transitional fossil
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@newjaninev2 [quote]Every fossil is a transitional fossil[/quote]

According to whom?
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu [quote]yeah it's called experience[/quote]

I told you, little fella, the lies of men can't stand up to the truth of God.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@GodSpeed63 Think about it... really try. Put some effort into it, rather than being merely disingenuous as is your norm.

[i]Evolution is change over time in the frequency and distribution of alleles,[/i] like the colours of a rainbow, with each species at each point in time representing a single hue, a moment on a continuum - a snapshot of that population at that time. This inevitably means that [b]all[/b] fossils are transitional because they are all points on a continuum. In fact, every single species living today is also a "transitional species" because the genetic makeup of populations continues to change.

@GodSpeed63

No answer.
Point proven.

You won't and/or can't answer even the simplest questions on the topic you're attempting to engage on.
You have neither the familiarity with the subject matter nor the disposition which would equip you to coherently debate this subject and so i'm cutting you loose.

Let it go at that.😉
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@newjaninev2 [quote]No answer. Point proven.[/quote]

Point not proven. No answer, just saw her post now, and she or you haven't have proved that evolution happened. If you want to think hard on something, try thinking that you're wrong and that Yahweh lives.
OggggO · 36-40, M
@GodSpeed63 So, I see you still can't show any knowledge of what a transitional fossil is. You bluster, yell, and assume, but you never have anything of actual substance.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@OggggO [quote]So, I see you still can't show any knowledge of what a transitional fossil is. [/quote]

Where's your definition, if you have one?
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@GodSpeed63 [quote]proved that evolution happened[/quote]

Why are you suddenly taking about evolution happening.

We were talking about the claim that all fossils are transitional fossils. I demonstrated to you that [b][i]all fossils are transitional fossils[/i][/b]... and suddenly you’re desperate not to talk about that any more.

If you want to discuss the broader topic of evolution by natural selection, and the evidence for that, and the Theory which completely, coherently, and consistently, accounts for that evidence, then I’d be happy to yet again take you through that.

Would you like to do that?
OggggO · 36-40, M
@GodSpeed63 I asked you first.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@GodSpeed63 has it not occurred to you that if a fossil is not transitional, then it is of a specific species.

Earth currently holds an estimated ten million species. We have many billions of fossils, and you think that each one represents a distinct species? Really? Given that fossilisation is a very rare event, your view must be that the Earth has seen [i]trillions[/i] of distinct species.

Not only that, but by your account each of those trillions of species just popped into existence from nothing
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@OggggO [quote]I asked you first.[/quote]

I take it you don't know then?
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@newjaninev2 [quote]has it not occurred to you that if a fossil is not transitional, then it is of a specific species. [/quote]

Yes. Has it not occurred to you yet?
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@GodSpeed63 A transitional form is an organism that has features intermediate of its ancestors and progeny. It’s important to note that the term describes the features of populations rather than individuals.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@GodSpeed63 so you’re now claiming that trillions of species appeared from nothing, each species being entire and distinct in itself?

Trillions, huh?

That must have been quite an ecosystem! 😂
OggggO · 36-40, M
@GodSpeed63 Sorry, you're not gonna flip this back on me. You made an asinine comment that displayed zero understanding of the term "transitional fossil" and were challenged to prove you had the faintest clue what you were talking about. Until you answer that challenge, I'm under no obligation to do your homework for you.