How can I tell if my freind has turned to Atheism? [Spirituality & Religion]

@jackieash Christians seem to think they have the right to dictate how others lead their lives. :(

@Sharon That is basically the single biggest reason we left, it was like I don't want to part of this anymore.

Not only do I disagree with their opinions but even more so their methods and desires to dictate how others live their lives when it has no actual impact on them at all drove far the fuck away.

Because I respect the principle of minding your own business unless and until someone elses deeds effect other people who don't consent to being effected- Freedom for the pike may sometimes be death for the minnow the way choosing not to get vaccinated ends up hurting the immunocompromised but those are truly narrow circumstances that rarely ever actually apply and usually it's better to just live and let live.

I am for mandatory vaccination but Imposing religion I will fight for religious pluralism for the rest of my days.

but for wear a mask and get vaccinated I Don't tell people how to live their lives.

I assume they know better than I would.

@jackieash I just would like what is best for her

@IndigoSavage What's "Best" for anyone isn't being CONTROLLED this way by religious hucksters. All this pretentious concern for peoples well being reminds me of gilead as the commander said, it doesn't really care about the children, all it cares about is power. All that horse shit about "Caring" about our immortal souls, it's all just the fucking Window dressing on a Naked power grab.

@BetweenKittensandRiots i am not taking about Islam, no one is controlling anyone, she can still drink alcohol if she wants

@IndigoSavage What makes you christians act like you're any better than the muslims? Both groups just want to tell everyone else how to live their lives in every capacity I mean for myself at least the only thing I'd ever tell them to do was mask up or get vaccinated because some people are immunocompromised.

You people want so much power and commitment out of people you get angry when they start EXCERCISING in a way your god doesn't approve of.

The patrarichal gods of Abraham ALL THREE of those religions, they're EVERY bit as vile as the others. Not a single one of them is "Above it."

"I'm not talking about islam" Really? Well you should be looking in the mirror, because that's what islam is showing you.

@BetweenKittensandRiots Muslim women have to wear robes over their faces while in public

@IndigoSavage And The theocratic christians in America would have you forced to bear unwanted children to term. What's your point?

Again, All Islam is doing is showing American Christians a Dark mirror. They ARE You, and you are them. IF the Christians get their way you won't even be able to VOTE anymore because lord knows that's when they think it all went wrong.

@BetweenKittensandRiots i am not one of those crazy Christians you are talking a out. No one has to have children

@IndigoSavage "I'm a moderate!" Yeah well Frankly you're not above critique because THIER silence in all of this is an act of Assent to the "Crazy christians."

if you truly are not deranged like the rest of them start calling the crazy ones out, Vocally and drive them from your communities.

Because the way I see it moderate christians only provide cover for the crazy ones. Stop providing cover for them and then talk to me about this stuff.

@BetweenKittensandRiots there are none of the crazy types that I ever see so I can't call them out

@IndigoSavage https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/09/us/donnie-romero-orlando-shooting-prostitutes.html

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@IndigoSavage Then let her make that decision for herself.

@IndigoSavage No, you're talking about controlling her life through christianity.

@BetweenKittensandRiots No Muslim has ever told me how to live my life. Several christians have tried.

@Sharon Hi there Sharon, Long term it doesn't do us atheist any good to never say anything bad of Islam , the struggles of Atheist in islamic countries is one that very badly needs our solidartiy.

However As I've said of my tendency to single Christians out for a point of criticism I live in the west And I freely admit that Our American eyes are privileged eyes and even more so than even the UK but here in the united states as it is in much of Europe no genuine danger to our rights exist from the Muslim community.

Sharia law is terrible, however it's not a Danger that we'll ever be placed under it's rule here in the west, and Frankly I know Americas character well, even if at times I hate her, if someone DID conquer us we'd launch every fucking nuke we had at our homeland. IF we can't have her no one will.

But to be frank its the fact that christians have the solidarity of young women like Indigo savage and so many young women in america are falling into being controlled by the christians that makes this particular religion a much greater danger to our freedoms.

Women to say they least are half the population and if a significant chunk of them buys into Christian nationalism we're in trouble because we live in a demoracy.

@Sharon [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMvFSX00PAI] my atheism has made me less of a fan of America but for all of americas faults it at least tolerates us.

@jackieash Christian parody!😂