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How Can Anyone Say, "There Is No God." With Such Beauty All Around Us? [Spirituality & Religion]

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According to Darwin, nothing can create such beauty short of the living God.
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Because it's not a compelling argument unless you already attribute nature to a god. Beauty is not necessarily indicative of a creator and even if it were it does not for instance allow you to distinguish whether that creator was your god or, for example, Allah.

According to Darwin, nothing can create such beauty short of the living God.

...what?
Carazaa · F
@Pikachu

It is indicative of a creator, absolutely. And that creator is Jesus because he proved it!

John 1 "All things were created by Him".

How did he prove it? The Gospel of MAtt, The Gospel of Mark, The Gospel of Luke, and The Gospel of John are Eye witnesses of all the miracles, and Jesus resurrection together with 500 people.
@Carazaa

It is indicative of a creator, absolutely.

Why?

nd that creator is Jesus because he proved it! John 1 "All things were created by Him"

*ahem*

Allah is the creator and he proved it!
It is Allah who created the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them in six days; then He established Himself above the Throne. You have not besides Him any protector or any intercessor; so will you not be reminded?32:4

Do you see how that's a bad argument?

Mark, The Gospel of Luke, and The Gospel of John are Eye witnesses of all the miracles,

Almost certainly not the case but that's a debate for another thread so i'm happy to leave it there for now.
Carazaa · F
@Pikachu
There is a HUGE difference between all religions and Jesus who came down from heaven and bore our sins, did miracles, rose from the grave, went up in the clouds infront of eye witnesses, taught the world to love, changed nations from Viking to loving, from poor to rich, from sad to joyous, from sick to healthy. Jesus stands out like a shining star in the sky. Compare the Muslim nations who are under war to the christian nations they are emigrating to like England, Scandinavia, and USA. Yeah, Where would you choose to live if you had a choice Syria or Sweden?
@Carazaa
Just pointing out that calling a passage of scripture proof is not a strong argument and it's one that can be used by literally any religion.

It is indicative of a creator, absolutely.
Why?
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu
Just pointing out that calling a passage of scripture proof is not a strong argument and it's one that can be used by literally any religion.

It's the Word of God, so it is strong enough. The Word of God does not belong to religion but only to God, Himself.
@GodSpeed63

Allah is the one, true god and he created the world. Prove me wrong.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu
Allah is the one,

If you actually believed in Allah, even though it's a false god, your statement would be genuine. Since you claim not to believe in any gods, your statement is null and void.
@GodSpeed63

The claim is a rhetorical tool and one which apparently baffles you.

The point is that your claim that Yahweh is the one true god is exactly as provable as the claim that Allah is the one true god.

Allow me to make the point in terms you can understand: Can you prove that your scripture is the word of god while the quran is not?
Sharon · F
@Pikachu
Beauty is not necessarily indicative of a creator
First we need to define "beauty".
@Sharon Quite true. I find a bleached, brown and white winter wasteland to be beautiful or a dreary, rainy day.
Beauty is subjective which makes this argument subjective as well.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu
The claim is a rhetorical tool and one which apparently baffles you.

I seriously doubt that. My testimony is true and is backed up by the Word of God and Holy Spirit. Your claim is not backed by either.
@GodSpeed63 Can you prove that your scripture is the word of god while the quran is not?
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu
Can you prove that your scripture is the word of god while the quran is not?

What's it to you? Why are you so interested?
@GodSpeed63

It's a straight question, give me a straight answer.
Can you prove that your scripture is the word of god while the quran is not?
Sharon · F
@Pikachu Obviously he can't answer the question so he'll just keep diverting. Standard behaviour, just watch.
@Sharon

Guaranteed🤣
Bushranger · 70-79, M
@Pikachu In a way his responses are quite comforting. It's good to know there are some things that remain unchanged and, in @GodSpeed63's case, unchangeable.
@Bushranger lol yes, he's nothing if not predictable.