Carbon dating is flawed. [Spirituality & Religion]
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Actual science proves that carbon dating is flawed.
Actual science proves that carbon dating is flawed.
61-69, M
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DocSavage · M
When scientists run into problems with one method of carbon dating, Do you actually believe that they deliberately release false, and inaccurate information, simply to spite religion ?
The crap you see in these videos, is the false positives used to identify problems in the process. Not to give fake results. Science is not the enemy. Trying to make the evidence fit the fairytale is just plain stupid.
The crap you see in these videos, is the false positives used to identify problems in the process. Not to give fake results. Science is not the enemy. Trying to make the evidence fit the fairytale is just plain stupid.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@DocSavage [quote]When scientists run into problems with one method of carbon dating, Do you actually believe that they deliberately release false, and inaccurate information, simply to spite religion ?[/quote]
No, but they do practice the 2 + 2 = any number but 4 fallacy. Religion has nothing to do with God creating science for the benefit of mankind.
No, but they do practice the 2 + 2 = any number but 4 fallacy. Religion has nothing to do with God creating science for the benefit of mankind.
Bushranger · 70-79, M
@GodSpeed63 How about giving an example of this 2 + 2 fallacy. You know, the one that first came to light when a Christian pastor put out a video in which he said that if the bible said 2 + 2 = 5, he would believe it.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Bushranger [quote]How about giving an example of this 2 + 2 fallacy.[/quote]
You call it, "We don't know, so Goddidit!" There is some truth to that. Evolution leaves no place for God in its equation, therefore, you must find other means to how things came to be and explain away the perplexity in creation. In trying to do so, you throw away the obvious and go with uncertain. Science itself is a magnificent but difficult study without you guys messing it up.
You call it, "We don't know, so Goddidit!" There is some truth to that. Evolution leaves no place for God in its equation, therefore, you must find other means to how things came to be and explain away the perplexity in creation. In trying to do so, you throw away the obvious and go with uncertain. Science itself is a magnificent but difficult study without you guys messing it up.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@DocSavage [quote]God created science ?[/quote]
Yes He did. God doesn't get anything wrong, man brought all this garbage on himself. God created science to show us His creation and how He's made it all work.
Yes He did. God doesn't get anything wrong, man brought all this garbage on himself. God created science to show us His creation and how He's made it all work.
Bushranger · 70-79, M
@GodSpeed63 IF, and it's a huge IF, evolution was concerned with the origin of life, you might have an argument.
There are branches of science that are investigating the origins of life, and I dare say some of the people working on it are Christians. If creationists could provide a logical, testable and coherent explanation, then I'm sure it would be considered.
There are branches of science that are investigating the origins of life, and I dare say some of the people working on it are Christians. If creationists could provide a logical, testable and coherent explanation, then I'm sure it would be considered.
Bushranger · 70-79, M
@GodSpeed63 [quote]God created science to show us His creation and how He's made it all work.[/quote]
Then why does it continue to show that the bible got so many things wrong? Not to mention the interpretations such as a young earth.
Then why does it continue to show that the bible got so many things wrong? Not to mention the interpretations such as a young earth.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Bushranger [quote]Then why does it continue to show that the bible got so many things wrong?[/quote]
Science doesn't show the Word of God to be wrong, your interpretation of both is what's wrong.
Science doesn't show the Word of God to be wrong, your interpretation of both is what's wrong.
Bushranger · 70-79, M
@GodSpeed63 Well, let's see you explain how the fossil and geological records disagree with both the creation and flood stories.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Bushranger [quote]Well, let's see you explain how the fossil and geological records disagree with both the creation and flood stories.[/quote]
They don't disagree with creation or the flood account. We've discussed this before or did you forget.
They don't disagree with creation or the flood account. We've discussed this before or did you forget.
Bushranger · 70-79, M
@GodSpeed63 If you mean that you denying actual science for religious faith is a discussion then perhaps we have (your conditioned response is not needed, because we all know what it will be).
If you mean an exchange of ideas supported by actual facts from your side, then definitely no.
If you mean an exchange of ideas supported by actual facts from your side, then definitely no.
DocSavage · M
@GodSpeed63
Aside from evolution, how about the earth itself. Not flat, no glass dome with windows to let in rain. Sun and moon not the same size. Sun doesn’t move around the Earth. You would think might mention that to the people writing the bible, instead of leaving things wrong
Aside from evolution, how about the earth itself. Not flat, no glass dome with windows to let in rain. Sun and moon not the same size. Sun doesn’t move around the Earth. You would think might mention that to the people writing the bible, instead of leaving things wrong
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Bushranger [quote] If you mean that you denying actual science[/quote]
I don't deny actual science only your type of science which is no science at all.
I don't deny actual science only your type of science which is no science at all.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@DocSavage [quote]Aside from evolution, how about the earth itself. Not flat, no glass dome with windows to let in rain. Sun and moon not the same size. Sun doesn’t move around the Earth. You would think might mention that to the people writing the bible, instead of leaving things wrong[/quote]
Are you just figuring this out now? Man has known this ever since his creation in the Garden of Eden.
Are you just figuring this out now? Man has known this ever since his creation in the Garden of Eden.
BlueSkyKing · M
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@BlueSkyKing Not a chance. Evolution will never be proven.
BlueSkyKing · M
@GodSpeed63 "You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards, witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical, absurd and primitive stories, and you say that we are the ones that need help?" - Mark Twain
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@BlueSkyKing [quote]You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards, witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical, absurd and primitive stories, and you say that we are the ones that need help?" [/quote]
What talking animals are you referring to? What people walked on water besides Jesus and Peter? If you've read the Word of God, He was against witches and wizards for practicing such magic. Those 'primitive stories' are accounts of man's history since the beginning of the world. Mark Twain wrote fictional stories like Tom Sawyer and Huck Fynn and had no accurate knowledge of God and His Word.
What talking animals are you referring to? What people walked on water besides Jesus and Peter? If you've read the Word of God, He was against witches and wizards for practicing such magic. Those 'primitive stories' are accounts of man's history since the beginning of the world. Mark Twain wrote fictional stories like Tom Sawyer and Huck Fynn and had no accurate knowledge of God and His Word.