How Should Christians Deal with Doubt? [Spirituality & Religion]
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spjennifer · 56-60, T
It's interesting to watch this man talk about "evidence" and "reasonable doubt" because there is no evidence that Jesus actually existed so it is perfectly reasonable for someone to have doubts. So why does having doubts make me an evil sinner in the eyes of some? I've been told by Catholic priests that I'm going to hell because I'm not a Catholic, told by Baptist ministers that I was going to hell because I doubted the existence of Jesus. Seems to me the only consistent belief here is that I'm going to hell, so might just as well accept it, right?
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Sharon · F
@spjennifer [quote] Seems to me the only consistent belief here is that I'm going to hell, so might just as well accept it, [/quote]
Of course, all our friends will be there. Imagine an eternity in the christian heaven, surrounded by sanctimonious christians, now that would be Hell.
Of course, all our friends will be there. Imagine an eternity in the christian heaven, surrounded by sanctimonious christians, now that would be Hell.
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@Sharon That may be a little unkind but understand. I've met many good people who are religious without being "sanctimonious" and were willing to listen, they weren't able to provide the answers because they had some of the same reasonable doubts. I do take exception to the sanctimonious ones who are often the loudest.
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@Harriet03 I think some idealize the "Kingdom of Heaven" but if we are all supposed to be equal in the eyes of God, what gives someone the right to tell me I'm going to hell but they will be going to Heaven because they've accepted Jesus as their Lord and Saviour. So this means that a man can commit unconscionable acts yet if he repents, he goes to Heaven but little old me, just because I doubt the existence of God is going to hell?
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@Sharon & @Harriet03 Agreed, it is very fucked up to me that someone could be forgiven for a Murder but OMG, those fucking Homos and Lesbos are all going to burn in Hell! That's how nonsensical and xenophobic most of the hardcore Evangelicals are as in "I'm going to live forever in Heaven but you're all going to burn in Hell" Sounds more like a Fraternity than a Religion...
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GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@spjennifer @Harriet03 @Sharon [quote]Agreed, it is very fucked up to me that someone could be forgiven for a Murder but OMG, those fucking Homos and Lesbos are all going to burn in Hell! [/quote]
God desires that none be lost but come to saving knowledge of Jesus Christ. We are all lost from the moment of accountability to accepting Christ as Lord and Savior. Those who wish to go to hell will leave God no choice but to grant their desires and allow them to go there. They have no clue of what hell is like until it's too late to change their mind.
God desires that none be lost but come to saving knowledge of Jesus Christ. We are all lost from the moment of accountability to accepting Christ as Lord and Savior. Those who wish to go to hell will leave God no choice but to grant their desires and allow them to go there. They have no clue of what hell is like until it's too late to change their mind.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Harriet03 [quote]So child victims, mixing with their abusers is cool then?[/quote]
Unless they repent, their not cool.
Unless they repent, their not cool.
LeopoldBloom · M
@GodSpeed63 You said that God wants all of us to be saved. But if I don’t want to be saved, God will give me what I want and send me to hell. That would make me stronger than God, because in this battle of wills, I win if I can just hold out until my death.
Sharon · F
@GodSpeed63 [quote]will leave God no choice [/quote]
That confirms @LeopoldBloom is right, we are more powerful that your god.
That confirms @LeopoldBloom is right, we are more powerful that your god.
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@GodSpeed63
[quote]Unless they repent, their not cool.[/quote]
Not sure what fucked up view of God you have but I was raised as a Christian and even if I have doubts about God's existence, this whole repenting crap is asinine. I seriously doubt that God would punish an uninformed child for not "repenting" the sins they haven't committed. If this is what you believe, then I'd want no part of that, or of any God who would even remotely begin to think that way.
[quote]Unless they repent, their not cool.[/quote]
Not sure what fucked up view of God you have but I was raised as a Christian and even if I have doubts about God's existence, this whole repenting crap is asinine. I seriously doubt that God would punish an uninformed child for not "repenting" the sins they haven't committed. If this is what you believe, then I'd want no part of that, or of any God who would even remotely begin to think that way.
Carazaa · F
@LeopoldBloom It's not winning to go to hell!
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Sharon [quote] It's just a made up place to scare christians into doing as they're told.[/quote]
Where's your case, Sharon, to support what you claim is true. Present it please or forfeit. No dodging this time.
Where's your case, Sharon, to support what you claim is true. Present it please or forfeit. No dodging this time.
LeopoldBloom · M
@GodSpeed63 If hell exists, please provide its precise physical location.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@LeopoldBloom [quote]If hell exists, please provide its precise physical location.[/quote]
In the bowels of the earth.
In the bowels of the earth.
spjennifer · 56-60, T
@GodSpeed63 Where the evil little man in the red suit with the horns and the pitchfork lives right?
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