The Amazing Scientific Evidence That Points To God [Spirituality & Religion]
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This is indeed true science.
This is indeed true science.
61-69, M
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ViciDraco · 41-45, M
Okay, so the very first argument was fabricated out of creationists purposefully misinterpreting a study. I can share the author of the studies referenced stating there was no link to age of universe able to be made from their findings.
Second argument - life developed where the circumstances were right for it. The sun wasn't made the right size because we are on earth, we were able to exist here because the sun was the right size. Given the broad arrangement of planets and stars in the universe, it is more than probably that ideal conditions exist somewhere.
Third argument - We have documented evidence of bees existing well before flowering plants.
Three for three, I don't believe the video warrants wasting any more time because it is not scientific. It is using scientific illiteracy to sound compelling but is full of holes.
Second argument - life developed where the circumstances were right for it. The sun wasn't made the right size because we are on earth, we were able to exist here because the sun was the right size. Given the broad arrangement of planets and stars in the universe, it is more than probably that ideal conditions exist somewhere.
Third argument - We have documented evidence of bees existing well before flowering plants.
Three for three, I don't believe the video warrants wasting any more time because it is not scientific. It is using scientific illiteracy to sound compelling but is full of holes.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@ViciDraco
Wrong. Evolution never happened as evolution scientists are finding out.
Wrong again. Life cannot come from non-life.
Wrong again. Those supposed 'documents' are fabricated by man and are false.
Wrong again. You're fabricating a lie and not the truth.
Okay, so the very first argument was fabricated out of creationists purposefully misinterpreting a study.
Wrong. Evolution never happened as evolution scientists are finding out.
Second argument - life developed where the circumstances were right for it.
Wrong again. Life cannot come from non-life.
Third argument - We have documented evidence of bees existing well before flowering plants.
Wrong again. Those supposed 'documents' are fabricated by man and are false.
Three for three, I don't believe the video warrants wasting any more time because it is not scientific. It is using scientific illiteracy to sound compelling but is full of holes.
Wrong again. You're fabricating a lie and not the truth.
ViciDraco · 41-45, M
@GodSpeed63 Your post states scientific evidence. The video provides none. And when confronted with the actual science, you claim it is fabricated by man and try to assert what the facts are without any backing.
Don't pretend to be appealing to science when you actually want nothing to do with it. It makes you look more ignorant, not less.
Don't pretend to be appealing to science when you actually want nothing to do with it. It makes you look more ignorant, not less.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@ViciDraco
The video in my post shows true science and not fabricated as you would like to believe. Your so called 'science' is fabricated by man and therefore is untrust worthy.
If anyone is pretending, it's you with your fairy tale conclusions on the evidence that science brings forth to you.
Your post states scientific evidence. The video provides none. And when confronted with the actual science, you claim it is fabricated by man and try to assert what the facts are without any backing.
The video in my post shows true science and not fabricated as you would like to believe. Your so called 'science' is fabricated by man and therefore is untrust worthy.
Don't pretend to be appealing to science
If anyone is pretending, it's you with your fairy tale conclusions on the evidence that science brings forth to you.
NortiusMaximus · M
@GodSpeed63
Evolution never happened as evolution scientists are finding out.
Wrong! Evolution has happened; is still happening; and will continue happening. There are heaps of evidence to support the Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection. Before you ask to see it, just remember you always argue that it is for the non-believer (in this case you) to prove it's not true and that such evidence doesn't exist. :)
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
NortiusMaximus · M
@GodSpeed63
Where's your evidence?
As you don't like the usual rules, let's play by your rules for a change. That means it's for you to prove evolution hasn't happened and that no evidence of it exists. When you do that, then I'll present the evidence to show that it has.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@NortiusMaximus
Yahweh has already done that. So, the burden of proof is on you.
As you don't like the usual rules, let's play by your rules for a change. That means it's for you to prove evolution hasn't happened and that no evidence of it exists.
Yahweh has already done that. So, the burden of proof is on you.
NortiusMaximus · M
@GodSpeed63
Yahweh has already done that.
Prove it - the burden of proof remains with you until you do. When you do that, then and only then I'll present the evidence that proves your yahweh is nothing more than a figment of your imagination.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@ViciDraco So where does information come from?
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@ViciDraco You missed the fact that a simple one celled creature existence depends on information. It needs to know what to produce and how to produce it. Life isn't a chemical reaction. It selects, stops, starts various processes as part of living. Where does that information come from.
ViciDraco · 41-45, M
@hippyjoe1955 I did not miss the fact, I misunderstood the too broadly scoped question. If you are considering genetic information as DNA, there is that. A single-cell organism gets its information from chemical and physical reactions.
If you want the deeper hows and whys you should probably ask a biologist of some kind. But by and large, life IS a chemical process. The selecting, stopping, starting, all of that are parts of said chemical process.
If you want the deeper hows and whys you should probably ask a biologist of some kind. But by and large, life IS a chemical process. The selecting, stopping, starting, all of that are parts of said chemical process.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@ViciDraco I have asked secular biologists. They can't explain it. There is no cause that they can come up with that explains the source of information the ability store the information or recall the information or probably most incredible the ability to use the information. The truly wonderful things the cell does within itself is very indicative of design not accident since that information and those functions had to be present in the very first cell. There is no opportunity for it to 'evolve' because the cell would not have lived to pass on its genes.
ViciDraco · 41-45, M
@hippyjoe1955 Secular or cellular? The latter is likely the group you need. But, just because you have to make these mistakes...
"They can't explain it." - This doesn't mean we can make something up.
"The truly wonderful things the cell does within itself is very indicative of design not accident since that information and those functions had to be present in the very first cell." - No, it is not indicative of design. You are making up an answer for something you do not understand. Or rather, accepting an answer someone else made up a long time ago to unrelated questions and are applying that same answer to the ever narrowing gaps in our understanding.
"They can't explain it." - This doesn't mean we can make something up.
"The truly wonderful things the cell does within itself is very indicative of design not accident since that information and those functions had to be present in the very first cell." - No, it is not indicative of design. You are making up an answer for something you do not understand. Or rather, accepting an answer someone else made up a long time ago to unrelated questions and are applying that same answer to the ever narrowing gaps in our understanding.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@ViciDraco They are eminently qualified to answer the question. I asked the ones I knew that didn't have a religious background for a reason. One of them spent some time with me going over the functioning of a cell. Fascinating. So where does that information come from?
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@ViciDraco
Why not? It's like saying 2+2 may = any number but 4.
You don't get to insert "design" just because you cannot imagine any other way.
Why not? It's like saying 2+2 may = any number but 4.
ViciDraco · 41-45, M
@GodSpeed63 keep on trolling, or come back with a rational argument
NortiusMaximus · M
@ViciDraco He'll have to opt for the former, the latter is beyond his abilities.