So if god cares about humanity and our salvation, why do you suppose that he only revealed himself to some ancient middle eastern people? [Spirituality & Religion]

@Carazaa China isn't corrupt because of atheism, that's not the issue at all.

@Carazaa

[quote]You think it was ineffective?[/quote]

Absolutely.
Objectively he has done a very poor job.
There are millions and millions of people who believe in a different god or no god at all.

[quote]Back then in the time of Adam and Eve there weren’t a lot of people around!
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Well there sure were a lot of people people in between times...which brings me back to my question about why he only revealed himself to a tribe in the middle east leaving hundreds and thousands of years for other people to believe in other gods and make it that much harder to believe in him.

So yes, if he did indeed want as many people as possible to believe in him and be saved then he did an objectively bad job of it.

@Pikachu It is just sad how you think you know better than God! If you don’t know as much as him then logically you can’t know why he does anything! Like I said
A. People spread the news through relationships and through the Bible
B. Most people reject God
C. Therefore it’s silly to say it’s not a good plan why?
1. Because maybe God knows something you don’t, like he knows exactly what people think and feel and he wants to give them what they want ( their own gods who won’t tell them that they sin)
2. Maybe God wants to test peoples faith and he wants to reward faith in action in this life and the next!

@SatanBurger China like all communist countries outlawed all religions and punished Christians! Their leaders want loyalty to the state, and its ruler!

@Carazaa

[quote]A. People spread the news through relationships and through the Bible
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And since millions and millions of people aren't coming to god that way and being saved, evidently it was a poor plan.
Forget about the people raised in Christian countries who fall away from the faith. The fact that there are people being brought up to believe in other gods makes it that much harder for them to ever believe in the god of Abraham.
So sucks to be them, i guess. I guess god's great plan is to make it much, much harder on them than someone born where Christianity is the norm.

And yes, of course your answer must be "God works in mysterious ways" because there is no good, logical answer for why god would leave so many millions people out of the loop for thousands (actually millions) of years.

@Pikachu Yeah sucks to be them! 🥺But you aren’t them are you? So what are you doing about me witnessing to you and all the others here?

@Carazaa

[quote] Yeah sucks to be them![/quote]

Indeed.
Hence the question i posed in this thread😉

[quote] So what are you doing about me witnessing to you [/quote]

What am i supposed to do with it? Decide that i am convinced when i am not?

@Pikachu yep fake it until you make it, repent and put God to the test on his promises. Follow him, and your faith will increase fast! Our faith is as big as our trust! Trust is action, not a feeling!

@Carazaa

lol sorry, i don't work that way. Fake it till you make it has never worked for me.
Guess i'm just one of the people god chose to burn.🤷‍♀️

@Pikachu kind of like if your wife or husband says “give me $500 to put in Tesla stock, I think it will increase to $1500 by next week!” How would you know if they are trustworthy unless you give them the money, and test the situation! God asks us to test him! You don’t have to have a lot of faith! Your faith will grow! I trust God with my money and my life! It takes time, maturity, and following Jesus and I know I can trust him!

@Carazaa

[quote]God asks us to test him!
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Done it. He failed. Seek and ye shall find didn't turn out to be true.
I feel like you keep forgetting that i've been through this already.

@Pikachu
Doubt it! I think you half assed it 😏

@Carazaa

Nope. I was in a terrible place and god (if he existed) left me there despite my earnest search for him.
I know you don't like to hear that because your religion creates the excuse that if you seek and don't find then you weren't really trying in the first place.

All i can do is share my experience and you can choose to believe it or not.
I already know what you've chosen because you must and it changes nothing.

@Pikachu I am so sorry! It is normal to be mad at God! I am so so sorry💞

@Carazaa

lol I'm not mad at god, i'm just unconvinced that he exists. Same with the Devil because i tried him next lol

@Pikachu So you didn’t put yourself in that bad place? You are sure it was God?

@Carazaa

Oh now that i think of it, it IS all my fault and god is definitely real.
lol is that what you want me to say?

@Pikachu just asked a question?

@Pikachu And if he doesn’t answer you he necessarily doesn’t exist?

@Carazaa

lol sorry.
No i don't think god put me in a bad place because i don't think god exists.
Ask yourself if you're mad at Allah. That's my answer when you ask me if i'm mad at god.

@Pikachu Is it possible that he exists but he did not answer you?

@Carazaa Yes we know China is communist but what I'm saying is, it's not because they don't believe in God that they have suppressed others. If they suppress religious groups it's because they threaten communism, not atheism.

Furthermore, religious assembly is protected per Chinese constitution under state organized houses of worship including Christianity.

But yes, you are right. China is horrible to religious minorites. That protection does not include non state mandated faiths such as Tibetan Buddhaists, Falun Gong, underground Catholics, Uyghur Muslims... (the Uyghur Muslims who are in literal camps right now.

They are faced with numerous human rights violations and are murdered unfortunately.

On the other hand, a large part of the Christian religion tried to discriminate against gay people willfully. So it is what it is.

@Carazaa

Sure it's possible.
It's possible that you're being deceived by a demon pretending to be god.
It's possible that i'm a brain in a vat being fed stimulus.

lol that is to say it is possible but i've encountered no convincing reason to accept the claim that a god or gods exist.

@Pikachu
I am glad you can admit there is a possibility that there is a God even though he didn’t give you the signs or answered your prayers. And that you realize that demons might deceive us! Many atheists cant admit this or won’t entertain that there might be a spirit world!

Could I be deceived by a demon? I am extremely concerned about demons! No I am not deceived because I don’t rely on my feelings or my senses! Jesus warned that we can’t rely on that! If I am sick I could hallucinate and it’s not God at all that I see! I rely on Gods words. It is reliable! It is His Word that saves! Not a vision! Jesus promises to take good care of us if we follow him so I do, and he does! It’s not a feeling, or a vision, but the Holy Bible! And it is everywhere to witness his love for us! It’s Passed down from generation to generation! That is Gods program!

I think it is such a beautiful salvation program. And I think it’s good that we see that the countries that have had Christian leaders are strong and are blessed countries and the ones that didn’t, have more inequality, more violence, poverty, and emigration! But it’s still the day of salvation, they can still turn to the Lord and be blessed! “Today is the day of salvation”

@SatanBurger
Its a funny coincident that the most atheistic countries are the most communistic, and controlling! We’ve seen that Atheism isn’t good for those countries! God gives us hope, faith, and love! The Christian countries have the least corruption and are prosperous and the entire world wants o immigrate to these countries! They might have mostly forgotten who blessed them but If they don’t remember soon they will lose their wealth!
God says “[b]The country whose God is The Lord will be blessed[/b]