To Skeptics Who Believe In Evolution: Where Will Your So Called ‘Science’ Be Then? [Spirituality & Religion]

@Harriet03 [quote]When i meet "Yahweh" on behalf of all the children with cancer!![/quote]

Not going to happen. When you meet Yahweh, you're going kneel before Him and give an account of your life that he so gave you, either as His child or as His enemy. He'd rather judge you as His child. He loves you that much.

@GodSpeed63 I kneel for no one & if I did, he wouldn't be able to afford it!! 🤷‍♀️

@Harriet03 [quote]I kneel for no one & if I did, he wouldn't be able to afford it![/quote]

You say that now but you're not going say it then. He can afford to have you kneel before Him as your Lord and God.

@GodSpeed63 Yeah right!!

@GodSpeed63 I'd like to know how you're going to explain yourself to Odin at the doors to Valhalla. Perhaps you'd rather take your chances with Kahless the Unforgettable at the Gates to Sto'Vo'Kor. 😎

@GodSpeed63 Prove it

@GodSpeed63 I'm not kneeling for anyone. I've heard what happens to those choirboys..

@jackieash [quote]Prove it[/quote]

Yahweh already has proven it by His Holy Spirit and His Word.

@Bushmanoz [quote]I'm not kneeling for anyone.[/quote]

You say that now, but, what are you going to say when you find yourself kneeling before Him on that day? You're not going to judge Him, that's for certain.

@GodSpeed63 I've already judged the thing you worship and deemed it to be a monster

@GodSpeed63 That is not proof. The fact is, you can't. No one can.

@GodSpeed63 [quote] but, what are you going to say when you find yourself kneeling before Him on that day?[/quote]

What are you going to say when you find yourself kneeling before Odin at the doors to Valhalla? You're not going to judge Him, that's for certain.

@GodSpeed63 If this god-beast sits in judgment of a species it has "created" in its own image, when that species uses that "free will" to improve things for mankind and the environment, rather than "God will provide the answer", that doesn't say much for its judgment.

@GodSpeed63 mate if i had a group of mice. And i knew for certain another group of mice would attack them. And rape their baby mice. Then i wouldn't let it happen... not put them together and let it happen and maybe punish the mice later.

This yahweh thing apparently is ok with this happening to kids. He has the power to, but doesn't stop it. He watches it happen and says i will judge you for that later.

So no. I wouldn't kneel to it. I already know I'm more moral.

@Bushmanoz [quote]This yahweh thing apparently is ok with this happening to kids.[/quote]

Mate, your 'yahweh thing' may be okay with children being abused in the way you described, but not my God, Yahweh. He is a righteous and just God, not a dictator as you would have Him to be. Those criminal acts will not go unpunished as you suppose.

@GodSpeed63 you are missing the point. Ïf he could stop it happening. Which being a"god" he could. Why wouldn't he? Why let it happen and say "keep raping that child... one day i will judge you for it".. this is actually what you believe in. And somehow you can sell your soul to overlook it because you get promised eternity if you ignore it.

@Bushmanoz Reminds me of one of pTerry's most vivid passages, summing up Vetinari's way of thinking:
[quote]The Patrician took a sip of his beer. “I have told this to few people, gentlemen, and I suspect I never will again, but one day when I was a young boy on holiday in Uberwald I was walking along the bank of a stream when I saw a mother otter with her cubs. A very endearing sight, I’m sure you will agree, and even as I watched, the mother otter dived into the water and came up with a plump salmon, which she subdued and dragged on to a half-submerged log. As she ate it, while of course it was still alive, the body split and I remember to this day the sweet pinkness of its roes as they spilled out, much to the delight of the baby otters who scrambled over themselves to feed on the delicacy. One of nature’s wonders, gentlemen: mother and children dining upon mother and children. And that’s when I first learned about evil. It is built into the very nature of the universe. Every world spins in pain. [b]If there is any kind of supreme being, I told myself, it is up to all of us to become his moral superior.[/b]”[/quote]

https://tauriqmoosa.wordpress.com/2011/04/27/vetinary-evil-moral/

Of course Granny Weatherwax also had something to say on the subject of gods and belief:

[quote]'I don’t hold with paddlin’ with the occult," said Granny firmly. ‘Once you start paddlin’ with the occult you start believing in spirits, and when you start believing in spirits you start believing in demons, and then before you know where you are you’re believing in gods. And then you’re in trouble.’
‘But all them things exist,’ said Nanny Ogg.
[b]‘That’s no call to go around believing in them. It only encourages ‘em.'[/b] (LL)[/quote]

http://www.chrisjoneswriting.com/weatherwax.html

Emphasis mine.