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redredred · M
@Speedyman I know your an invalid, more or less a mental defective but could you try to answer any of my questions? Do you seriously believe a man spent three days in the digestive juices of a whale or twelve hours inside a burning furnace? How did Noah get all the marsupials back to Australia and where did all the flood waters go?
wilderflower · F
@redredred Excellent questions.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
You are completely baffled. You are one of these creatures who looks on things entirely from the natural point of view. Of course it was possible for a man to spend three days in a digestive juices have a great fish (not a whale) as it was a miracle. Similarly it is obvious how the boys survived th3 fiery furnace. It was a miracle. Just read the account. Of course if you are just believe that the natural is all there is then you won’t believe it but some of us believe in the supernatural. Some of us are more broadminded than you narrowminded atheists@redredred
wilderflower · F
@redredred And how did they not attack each other?
Speedyman · 70-79, M
You have this utterly stupid idea of uniformitarianism whereby you believe every condition of the earth was exactly the same as it was today. If just a little imagination is used rather than your boneheaded narrowmindedness you can easily see that the animals will fire you more used to being together and would have been able to spread out. Let’s face it even evolutionists are divided about animals in Australia. For goodness sake because there are difficulties it doesn’t mean to say we disbelieve everything otherwise we will disbelieve the quantum theory. There are difficulties with that but we don’t stop believing it@wilderflower @redredred
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@wilderflower Lions became Vegan for a couple of weeks... but gave up their believes later.
wilderflower · F
@Kwek00 Ohhhhh that was so sweet of them. Thanks for the explanation. 😉
wilderflower · F
@Speedyman Are you saying every animal on that ark were friendly and civilized?
@Speedyman
[quote]For goodness sake because there are difficulties it doesn’t mean to say we disbelieve everything[/quote]
Couldn't agree more. And of course you must apply that logic evenly.
It goes both ways, speedy😉
Just because there are some unanswered questions with "macro" evolution doesn't mean you should disbelieve that it happened.
As for the ark, even supposing that the animals didn't eat each other while on the ark, they certainly began when they got off it.
And here's the problem with that:
Aside from livestock, you've only got a pair of each animal. Even supposing that was actually enough to generate a stable population without crippling inbreeding, the herbivores would still have been destroyed by the carnivores before they could establish a population.
A couple of lions, a couple of tigers, some wolves, bears, hyenas and so on...well they're warm blooded, speedy. And you know what that means: they eat at a fantastic rate in order to keep up their metabolism.
Seems unlikely that the herbivore species would have been able to survive long enough to establish a stable breeding population.
On top of that, there wouldn't have been sufficient vegetation for them to eat because most plants just wouldn't survive under water for that long.
Not to mention that most of the fish would have died in the brackish water needing either salt or fresh water to survive.
Lots of problems in addition to the kangaroos getting to Australia without leaving behind any descendants or fossils along the way.
[quote]For goodness sake because there are difficulties it doesn’t mean to say we disbelieve everything[/quote]
Couldn't agree more. And of course you must apply that logic evenly.
It goes both ways, speedy😉
Just because there are some unanswered questions with "macro" evolution doesn't mean you should disbelieve that it happened.
As for the ark, even supposing that the animals didn't eat each other while on the ark, they certainly began when they got off it.
And here's the problem with that:
Aside from livestock, you've only got a pair of each animal. Even supposing that was actually enough to generate a stable population without crippling inbreeding, the herbivores would still have been destroyed by the carnivores before they could establish a population.
A couple of lions, a couple of tigers, some wolves, bears, hyenas and so on...well they're warm blooded, speedy. And you know what that means: they eat at a fantastic rate in order to keep up their metabolism.
Seems unlikely that the herbivore species would have been able to survive long enough to establish a stable breeding population.
On top of that, there wouldn't have been sufficient vegetation for them to eat because most plants just wouldn't survive under water for that long.
Not to mention that most of the fish would have died in the brackish water needing either salt or fresh water to survive.
Lots of problems in addition to the kangaroos getting to Australia without leaving behind any descendants or fossils along the way.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
You are of course completely uninformed about things and assuming that everything was the same as it was today. We don’t know what species were on the Ark and we don’t know just how they spread out. We don’t know whether they hibernated whike on the Ark. The problem is you assertions are backed up with your usual simplistic reasoning of a 21st century person who is completely licked into their way of thought.
The problem with your macro evolution is there are so many problems and vastly more problems than there are with the Ark@Pikachu
The problem with your macro evolution is there are so many problems and vastly more problems than there are with the Ark@Pikachu
wilderflower · F
@Speedyman Provided there [i]was [/i] an ark.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
Interesting there are so many stories about it from all sorts of cultures@wilderflower
wilderflower · F
@Speedyman Just like there are stories about Santa Claus from different cultures
@Speedyman
If just a little imagination is used rather than your boneheaded narrowmindedness you can easily see that the animals would have existed in an unsustainable ecology after leaving the ark.
You are of course completely uninformed about things and therefore must make the baseless claim that things must have been different in order for you to maintain your fantasy.
lamo i am really enjoying hoisting you on your own petard!🤣
I can see why you like arguing like this. It's so easy to just call your opponent stupid, vaguely reject his position and then claim victory!😁
If just a little imagination is used rather than your boneheaded narrowmindedness you can easily see that the animals would have existed in an unsustainable ecology after leaving the ark.
You are of course completely uninformed about things and therefore must make the baseless claim that things must have been different in order for you to maintain your fantasy.
lamo i am really enjoying hoisting you on your own petard!🤣
I can see why you like arguing like this. It's so easy to just call your opponent stupid, vaguely reject his position and then claim victory!😁
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