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God Created [Spirituality & Religion]

I will be removing all rude and condescending comments.

There are currently 829 comments and so many of them are rude and condescending!

Currently, there is a rather misleading thread which asks...

"For my creationist friends who reject that evolution has occurred: What do you consider to be the best COUNTER-EVIDENCE that evolution has occurred?"

This question is misleading. Most Creationists believe that God created a world with many Kinds of creatures and that these creatures multiplied and grew in diversity. We believe that God used genes as building blocks for creatures in the same way that we might use cement to build very different structures. Similarities between creatures that are of different Kinds are simply the result of having the same building blocks. A dome structure and a skyscraper might both use cement but the similarity means nothing. It means nothing in biology as well.

Similarities between organisms might be used to classify organisms but using similarities to make assumptions about origins is ridiculous!

I am, however, thankful that God gave each Kind of creature the genetic ability to become diverse. So, we have many kinds of birds... many breeds of dogs... etc. Some call this ability evolution... but it does not imply that dogs came from an ancient bacterial ancestor. lolol.

So, does evolution occur? Yes, within each Kind of animal, of course! Does that mean that Darwin's dream might have merit? Of course not. The intricacies of nature and the masterful use of genetic building blocks implies a Creator... an organic architect and engineer.

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shuhak · M

God made everything after its kind. Dogs don't "evolve" into butterflies; horses don't "evolve" into cats. Even after billions(?) of years this still holds true.
There are more kinds of dogs today than there were when God created this world. Some of which were only came into existence within the last 100 years (by humans crossbreeding other dogs). Even so, they are still all canines. Not a one of them is part feline, or bovine, or aves (bird).

God said, "I made everything - deal with it!" (Genesis 1 paraphrased)

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Bushranger · 70-79, M

@shuhak

God made everything after its kind. Dogs don't "evolve" into butterflies; horses don't "evolve" into cats. Even after billions(?) of years this still holds true.

Couldn't agree more. However, it appears that your understanding of evolution may be faulty. Also, what is your definition of "kind"?

Carazaa · F

@shuhak Thats right! 💞

Sharon · F

@Emosaur

Strawman argument; no scientist claims that.

It's the creationist's version of the theory of evolution. It's deliberately flawed and misrepresented as the genuine theory so creationists can easily shoot it down. As you say, it's a strawman argument.

shuhak · M

@Emosaur While my statements were meant to be ludicrous, my point remains intact. Nothing "evolves" (changes) into something different that its original species base.

It doesn't matter what name we put on things, they are what they are.

As for my last statement - I summarized the crux of the chapter.

shuhak · M

@Bushranger "Kind" is basically species.

Sharon · F

@shuhak What about sub-species? Domestic dogs (canis lupus familiaris), for example, are a sub-species of wolf (canis lupus). Did dogs evolve from wolves or did your god create dogs as an afterthought?

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Sharon · F

@Emosaur

At least when it comes to aspects of science that contradict their beliefs.

They're quick enough to embrace science when it can be (mis)used to "prove" the bible is right but they dismiss it as "just a theory" when it contradicts their beliefs.

Bushranger · 70-79, M

@shuhak There are examples of species diverging. @Emosaur gave one example of a ring species, but there are others.

I think that you may have the wrong taxonomic level, as it's not that difficult for new species to develop.

GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@Emosaur

Their frequent use of the (highly unscientific) term "kind" just proves how anti-science the religious really are. At least when it comes to aspects of science that contradict their beliefs.

Nothing wrong with science itself. After all Yahweh ordained it to benefit mankind. It's these so called 'scientists' who seek their own glory rather than the truth is what bothers us. Sadly enough, their stupidity runs rampant, like the corona virus plague, among the gullible people.

Sharon · F

@GodSpeed63

After all Yahweh ordained it to benefit mankind.

Prove it! Don't bother with any BS about how your imaginary friend (whom you call "yahweh" in case you've forgotten again) has already proven it. Let's see some real, verifiable evidence that this "yahweh" even exists other than in your imagination.

NewBecky · 51-55, F

@GodSpeed63 God bless you, Godspeed63. When you see a watch then you know there is a watchmaker. 😀 Thank you for your efforts to communicate truth.

GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@Sharon

Prove it!

Yahweh already did. I have yet to see you prove that He didn't.

GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@NewBecky

God bless you, Godspeed63. When you see a watch then you know there is a watchmaker. 😀 Thank you for your efforts to communicate truth.

Thank you, sister. 😀 God gave me a heart for the truth.

Sharon · F

@GodSpeed63

I have yet to see you prove that he didn't.

We have yet to see you offer some small shred of evidence to even suggest that your specific god even exists. Even if you were to manage that, there would still be no evidence that it, rather than one of the thousands of other gods, was the ultimate creator.

GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@Sharon

We have yet to see you offer some small shred of evidence to even suggest that your specific god even exists.

If you're blind to the evidence already show you, what makes you think you'll see anymore evidence that Yahweh lives?

hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M

@GodSpeed63 Trying to convince a person born blind that rainbows exist is pretty pointless. Even if you convince theme that rainbows do exist they have no idea what they look like or the joy one gets when you see one after a rainstorm.

ninalanyon · 61-69, T

@shuhak

Dogs don't "evolve" into butterflies; horses don't "evolve" into cats. Even after billions(?) of years this still holds true.

No one ever claimed they did.

basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M

@ninalanyon I'm wondering. Does he dispute that dogs and wolves share a common ancestor?