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Silverwings · 61-69, F
Logic- The study of principles of reasoning,
If you use logic and reason with your self, you will come to realize that someone much greater than you or I , hung the stars in the sky, and developed their deisgns, that remain constant year after year, century after century. That someone who is greater than I also put boundaries on the oceans, enabled the fish to swim and the birds to fly, created the delicate eco system, and caused it to sustain itself, created the human body and mind, that in itself is a marvelous creation, brought forth life, and caused it to flourish, created the sun to light the day and the moon to light the night. Created the 4 seasons of the year, so that they could bring about perpetuity, gave man the knowledge to do great things, increased his knowledge exponentially, yet with all of that man continues to rebel against his creator.
If you use logic and reason with your self, you will come to realize that someone much greater than you or I , hung the stars in the sky, and developed their deisgns, that remain constant year after year, century after century. That someone who is greater than I also put boundaries on the oceans, enabled the fish to swim and the birds to fly, created the delicate eco system, and caused it to sustain itself, created the human body and mind, that in itself is a marvelous creation, brought forth life, and caused it to flourish, created the sun to light the day and the moon to light the night. Created the 4 seasons of the year, so that they could bring about perpetuity, gave man the knowledge to do great things, increased his knowledge exponentially, yet with all of that man continues to rebel against his creator.
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Silverwings · 61-69, F
@Emosaur So say you. OH YE OF LITTLE FAITH.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Silverwings
[quote]So say you. OH YE OF LITTLE FAITH.[/quote]
That's exactly the problem when you invoke words like:
[quote][b]If you use logic and reason[/b] with your self, you will come to realize that someone much greater than you or I , hung the stars in the sky, and developed their deisgns, that remain constant year after year, century after century.[/quote]
It's that logic and reason, don't depend on faith. But your reasoning does.
[quote]So say you. OH YE OF LITTLE FAITH.[/quote]
That's exactly the problem when you invoke words like:
[quote][b]If you use logic and reason[/b] with your self, you will come to realize that someone much greater than you or I , hung the stars in the sky, and developed their deisgns, that remain constant year after year, century after century.[/quote]
It's that logic and reason, don't depend on faith. But your reasoning does.
Silverwings · 61-69, F
@Emosaur Hurrah it all you want to, but the truth is that you can not disprove it, any more than I can prove it. So we are at an impasse, without divine intervention, and I pray that happens for your sake.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Silverwings
[quote][b]So we are at an impasse[/b], without divine intervention, and I pray that happens for your sake.[/quote]
No we ware not :|
Only people with your mindset are at an impasse. It tells a lot more about you then the situation you are discussing.
[quote][b]So we are at an impasse[/b], without divine intervention, and I pray that happens for your sake.[/quote]
No we ware not :|
Only people with your mindset are at an impasse. It tells a lot more about you then the situation you are discussing.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Silverwings HOW? ... show me the logical reasoning that brings you to a state where you believe in God. Not a state of "Faith", because "Faith" isn't build on logic and rational. The word by itself, by defenition, excludes rationality and logic. You have "faith" in something, is totally diffrent then "you know something".
I love the: "if you apply them right", because it's the same trickery Budwick pulled when he ran away crying "cyberbullying" before he left the exit. When you "apply them right", in this case translates in: "when you adopt the right bias"
I love the: "if you apply them right", because it's the same trickery Budwick pulled when he ran away crying "cyberbullying" before he left the exit. When you "apply them right", in this case translates in: "when you adopt the right bias"
Silverwings · 61-69, F
@Kwek00 OK I do not intend to argue with you, believe what you want, it is your life, and you are responsible for how you live it. Proverbs 29:1 A man who remains stiff-necked after much reproof will suddenly be shattered beyond recovery.
Silverwings · 61-69, F
Birds of a feather flock together means people of similar interests, background, ideas or characteristics will often congregate or hang out with each other, people who have similar ideas or values tend to stick together. In nature, many species of birds travel in flocks for safety and companionship.
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Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Silverwings That's such bullshit.
You come here making the claim that if you apply "logic" and "reason"... that you end up with the idea that God is the creator of the universe. That this is the logical and reasonable answer to problems.
So ... How is it the logical and reasonable path to take? Why does it provide these outcomes? ... well, we are not going to talk about that, because you aren't going to argue with me. And I'm free to believe what I want to believe.
So you set up a phony argument, that you can't defend.
And then you wave it away by giving a piece of text from the bible, about "stiff-necked" people to comfort yourself. Which is one of those great lines inside the bible to keep the cult going. It's one of those tricks, like the one that says that believers will be mocked by non-believers. And because believers' have ideas that are so far out there, they get mocked, and therefore it becomes a self-furfilling prophecy that creates space for believers to indulge in ignorance.
You come here making the claim that if you apply "logic" and "reason"... that you end up with the idea that God is the creator of the universe. That this is the logical and reasonable answer to problems.
So ... How is it the logical and reasonable path to take? Why does it provide these outcomes? ... well, we are not going to talk about that, because you aren't going to argue with me. And I'm free to believe what I want to believe.
So you set up a phony argument, that you can't defend.
And then you wave it away by giving a piece of text from the bible, about "stiff-necked" people to comfort yourself. Which is one of those great lines inside the bible to keep the cult going. It's one of those tricks, like the one that says that believers will be mocked by non-believers. And because believers' have ideas that are so far out there, they get mocked, and therefore it becomes a self-furfilling prophecy that creates space for believers to indulge in ignorance.
Silverwings · 61-69, F
Hell is in the center of our Earth, where molten rock and brimstone cast themselves about like a Tsunami out of the deep. This hellish place did not exist when God the eternal Father created a perfect world. The world was a garden paradise, where the loving Father could step out of His Ivory City to walk in fellowship with His earthly family. It appears that He created the Earth for His pleasure and retreat like a great garden in the suburbs of Heavenly Jerusalem. The space or distance between the Heavenly City and the Father’s paradise garden probably did not exist until sin was judged.
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Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Emosaur You are argueing within their theological framework... It's like argueing within star wars framework. When I'm talking Star Wars, I don't need you to tell me that it's impossible to create a lasersword that just ends at the right distance. Because in the Star Wars universe, it's clearly possible 😅
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