@Silverwings nope, you're wrong. I prayed for him when I was sick and abused by my father. Your God never showed up. Surprisingly, my life became better when I left Christianity.
@JBird Oooo someone had a temper tantrum and decided to 'show God'. Too funny. Here is a hint. Yahweh isn't your servant. He took you through your dark night just as he takes us through our dark night. Some of us realize a Loving Father does discipline His child and we are made the stronger for having been through it. Even Jesus had His dark night up to and including His Crucifixion. He prayed so fervently that He sweated blood but in the end He became even more obedient and said "Not My will but Thy Will be done".
@hippyjoe1955 Then maybe you can explain why an ‘all powerful and loving’ god (as described by @GodSpeed63) would allow something like this to happen to children
@Silverwings do you read stories of people getting raped, abused, tortured and killed among those praise reports? Do you even acknowledge @jade's part where children being born sick?
@JBird jbird. your reasoning goes along with the line of thinking that God can't be evil. perhaps those people are being punished for some reason or have some lesson to learn from their trials. maybe their experience will help guide them along the path he has chosen for them. there's a saying "God works in mysterious ways" if you believe in reincarnation (which is mentioned in the bible) you might understand this better
your reasoning goes along with the line of thinking that God can't be evil.
Nope, I don't. God or any kind of being controlling can be good, evil or just don't care, who knows. I was going along lines of Christians who says God is loving, forgiving and over all good.
So people have to learn a lesson by putting other people in pain? So people have to be a bait just teach other people a lesson? So that means we have no guarantee in worshipping or having personal relationship with God if you are doomed to be in pain.
@JBird Actually the bible speaks that Jesus is our servant though and thus by extension God. He served his disciples before himself and washed their feet. Cause the bible also says: "But whoever would be great among you must be your servant." Yeah I have odd views of what christianity is supposed to be. lol
"You obviously have never needed him bad enough to find him"
Well, that's part of the reason why it's so attractive I guess. In moments of need, people turn to something that comforts them outside of themselves. For little children it's a stuffed doll, for grown ups it's idols, gods, strong-charistmatic characters, ideology, ... etc. Precisely when you are in need, when a conflict occurs in your life, you are most perceptible to embrace some narrative that comforts you. That doesn't make it real.
ven Jesus had His dark night up to and including His Crucifixion. He prayed so fervently that He sweated blood but in the end He became even more obedient and said "Not My will but Thy Will be done".
That makes no sense. It contradicts all those christians who claim Jesus is "god".
