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Why God logically cannot exist: [Spirituality & Religion]

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JBird · F
There should be one more flow: why God didn't destroy Satan?
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@JBird If the object of the lesson is to learn the difference between good and evil destroying the evil doesn't work that well. Humans have too short a view of things. Think Eternal.
JBird · F
@hippyjoe1955 how do know there's an eternal life if only dead people go there and we can't talk to dead? Think logically.

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If the object of the lesson is to learn the difference between good and evil
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What is the purpose of that? Why do we have to learn difference between them if God can destroy evil? Why did God create evil in the first place if he didn't want it?
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@JBird If you are God's child and made in HIS Image and you are sent to school to learn about Good and Evil. Destroying Evil would serve what purpose? NONE. Think Eternal not temporal. We are on this planet for a short period of time and shall soon return to the Eternal. To simplify even more did you ever watch Star Trek the Next Generation?
JBird · F
@hippyjoe1955 my parents had sex and I was conceived from that. I was born in the image defined by the DNA that I inherited from my parents. There's no God involved in that. I was sent to learn to learn how world works. Right and wrong I learnt from my life experience, again no God there.

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Destroying Evil would serve what purpose? NONE.
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So there's no purpose? What?

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Think Eternal not tempora.
We are on this planet for a short period of time and shall soon return to the Eternal.
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Again you didn't answer my question. How do you know there's eternal life?

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To simplify even more did you ever watch Star Trek the Next Generation?
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I don't watch star trek.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@JBird You missed a valid point. In the show there was a recurring person who was of a species that never died. The character's name was Q and he explained how monotonous it becomes when you can never die. How many things can you see or do or visit before you have done it all before. While it was written from an all too human point of view the fact is that eternity would get boring if you just do the same thing over and over and over again. Thus our Creator sends His Children to school. Oh it may only be a short class of 80 years or so and it may seem confusing for the students but that is only a very very very microscopic bit of eternity. In the mean time there are those who fail the course and suffer the consequences. There are those who pass with flying colours and move on leaving a host of followers in their wake. And then there are the foolish ones who refuse to open their eyes and look beyond their petty humanity and so lose it all.
Benjr134 · M
@JBird If God exists and God created humans then there was a reason. Whatever reason that was, we needed both good and bad. If there isn’t one then we can’t understand the other. Pain for instance. The first time you ever felt pain, though you can’t remember it, you probably thought you were going to die. Years later after experiencing that same pain multiple times, despite it being the exact same pain, it starts seeming less and less painful. You start dealing with the pain better. It’s the same with good and bad. Someone treats you badly for the first time you get so angry that you just want to do the same thing back to them. Over time you learn bad things happen, so you start dealing with it in different was till you’re either a better person or a worse person. As for whether or God exists all anyone can say is I do think God exists or God doesn’t exists. There is no way to prove God exists or doesn’t. The universe is so massive that we can’t understand it and to say we understand it, is hubris. Also, if you believe in evolution which is the common belief then what’s the goal? If we keep evolving to a better form what’s the end? Is it death of the entire species or something else? All you can do is think the universe is infinite, with infinite variables and possibilities. If that is true or even remotely close then one of those possibilities is a being that omniscient and omnipotent. Maybe to them they aren’t a God but to us they might seem like a God, just like we might seem like a God to the Neanderthal. It’s about perspective. And like @hippyjoe1955 said you’re perspective is limited due to the fact that humans don’t even have a brain that can understand its own universe. So anyone saying definitively that God does not exist is flawed in their thinking or wrong because to know without doubt that God does not exist means you had to receive that from a source that’s omniscient. Therefore a God and there God would exist. So all you can say is either you don’t think God exists or you hope not because of personal experiences.
JBird · F
@hippyjoe1955 you missed another valid point. You didn't answer my question: how do you there's an eternal life if only dead people can have that and we can't communicate to them? Your whole story will be only be considered if you prove there's an eternal life.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@JBird If you have had interaction with the ETERNAL you would know whereof I speak. Sadly you have your eyes closed from birth and are trying to tell me rainbows don't exist because you have never seen them. I know they exist because I have seen them and If you would open your eyes you would see them too. Not my fault you refuse to open your eyes. Not my job to convince you that rainbows exist. You choose to live blind. I choose to live sighted. To each their own.
JBird · F
@hippyjoe1955 how can I have interaction with eternal while I am alive and only dead people can go there?
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@JBird Who told you that line of nonsense? I interact with the Eternal multiple times a day.
JBird · F
@hippyjoe1955 what line of nonsense? People can have eternal life after death. Just because you saw something in your head and not others can see it, you expect others to believe it?
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@JBird I am not alone in the experiences. I have read books that describe my experience to a T. The person who wrote the book died hundreds and sometimes thousands of years ago.
JBird · F
@hippyjoe1955 there are people who wrote books on seeing aliens too. Do you I have to believe aliens created us?
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@JBird Sure there are and that proves????? Using your logic here.
JBird · F
@hippyjoe1955 yes, I am using logic here. There are books people talking about seeing heaven and others talking our whole universe is actually a stimulation created by aliens. How do you know which one is true?
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@JBird Are the aliens of this universe?
JBird · F
@hippyjoe1955 maybe, maybe not. I can't tell that.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@JBird So does a house build itself?
JBird · F
@hippyjoe1955 nope, humans planned it, constructed it, and live in it. Therefore humans know that they made it.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@JBird So if aliens are part of universe how could they have created the universe?
JBird · F
@hippyjoe1955 I didn't tell you they are part of the universe. Maybe they can be from other universe. If they have all the power to do it, they can.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@JBird I asked you what you thought.
JBird · F
@hippyjoe1955 and gave you my thoughts. Aliens or something from another universe can have possiblities to create this world
Lynda70 · F
@JBird [quote]why God didn't destroy Satan?[/quote]What? Destroy the best friend he's ever had? Who could he blame for his plan going wrong if he didn't have Satan as a scapegoat?