Do we need God for Morality? [Spirituality & Religion]

Obviously the secular answer is a resounding NO.
But if you're a theist who says "yes", i want to hear your reasoning.

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I would argue the opposite. God, manifests itself through religions/tribes, and these religions/tribe compete, violently for control, setting morality aside, or redefining morality, to be whatever fits these religions/tribes objectives. Fear of God keeps religions/tribes in control.

GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M

@Northwest [quote]God, manifests itself through religions/tribes, and these religions/tribe compete, violently for control, setting morality aside, or redefining morality, to be whatever fits these religions/tribes objectives. Fear of God keeps religions/tribes in control.[/quote]

You got it backwards, @Northwest. God hates man made organized religion more than we ever could. Just read Matthew 23. One more thing, it's not about religion, never has been or ever will be about religion. It's a relationship with God and His creation through Jesus Christ by His Holy Spirit.

Northwest · M

@GodSpeed63 In other words, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, and others, are screwed.

Pikachu

@Northwest

There certainly is a lot of god-based justification that goes on for violence and cruelty.