Do we need God for Morality? [Spirituality & Religion]

Obviously the secular answer is a resounding NO.
But if you're a theist who says "yes", i want to hear your reasoning.

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SW-User

NEED him, no doesn't work like that. It started with Adam and Eve when they partook of the tree of good and evil, when we were not suppose to. Then they became aware they were naked after doing so. They had awareness of morality after that. That's where it began - humans always do it to themselves. We are weak and give in to temptation. Many humans are good at a semblance of morality or kindness but it's self serving

Pikachu

@SW-User

[quote] It started with Adam and Eve when they partook of the tree of good and evil, when we were not suppose to. Then they became aware they were naked after doing so. They had awareness of morality after that[/quote]

Well that's just preaching...right? It's not an [i]argument[/i] about whether there must be a divine arbiter of morality. You're just telling me about the book of genesis...

[quote]You're not one bit different than the religious zealots. You've created your own religion and this is it.
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Um....i don't think i've said anything which merits that accusation
Can you elaborate on your justification for making it?

Carazaa · F

@Pikachu We live by the Bible! We test it so that has been proven to us! The Bible IS Gods word and that can be tested!

Sharon · F

@Carazaa [quote]The Bible IS Gods word and that can be tested![/quote]
It fails the test as the existence of this "god" is not first proven.

SW-User

@Pikachu Haha, it's not preaching, it's fact.

Sharon · F

@SW-User [quote] it's not preaching, it's fact.[/quote]
If it be fact, you can show us the evidence to prove it. Otherwise it is just your opinion and you're preaching.

Pikachu

@SW-User

[quote]it's not preaching, it's fact.
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I acknowledge that, that is what you believe to be true.
But it's not an argument for why we need god for morality. It's just a claim about how an abrahamic morality began.
Do you understand the distinction?

And i would appreciate an answer to my second question.
You said that i'm no different from a religious zealot. So can you validate that claim or was it just something you said in the heat of the moment with no legitimate justification?