Given the overwhelming evidence of Evolution through common descent...what would you consider to be the best COUNTER evidence to evolution? [Spirituality & Religion]

@GodSpeed63 Either understand the conversation or don't participate.

@OggggO
I understand it very well unlike you.

@GodSpeed63

There is a great deal of evidence for evolution whether you choose to deny that fact or not.

But that is not the focus of this thread. Here, i challenge you to prove evidence which contraindicates evolution.
Can you do that or can you not?

@Pikachu
I don't deny any fact that leads to truth. Your statement has neither fact or truth.

@GodSpeed63

If you say so. But again, that is the subject of another thread.

So i challenge you again and please don't ignore it this time:
Provide evidence which contraindicates evolution.
Can you do that or can you not?

@Pikachu No one has ever seen it [evolution] happen. If it were a real process, evolution should still be occurring, and there should be many "transitional" forms that we could observe. What we see instead, of course, is an array of distinct "kinds" of plants and animals with many varieties within each kind, but with very clear and -- apparently -- unbridgeable gaps between the kinds. That is, for example, there are many varieties of dogs and many varieties of cats, but no "dats" or "cogs." Such variation is often called microevolution, and these minor horizontal (or downward) changes occur fairly often, but such changes are not true "vertical" evolution.

The scientific method traditionally has required experimental observation and replication. The fact that macroevolution (as distinct from microevolution) has never been observed would seem to exclude it from the domain of true science.

@Budwick


Well we have seen descent with modification. Right before our eyes.
There's your proof of concept. So then we move on to:


And there are. We observe them in the fossil record and perhaps even in living animals.
Example:
Here we see fossils of dinosaurs which are understood to be the ancestors of birds. We see that they possess features which are common to reptiles (eg> teeth, long, bony tails and snouts). But these same specimens also possess features which are common to birds (eg> feathers both insulating and asymmetrical, grasping feet and hollow bones.
Beyond that, we even see fossil evidence of behaviour from dinosaurs which is more typical of birds in the form of brooding.

And then we get to the modern species like ostriches, emus and cassowary (incidentally, birds which most resemble ornithomimid theropod dinosaurs) which possess very saurian-like claws on their wings in just the way we would expect from a limb which was once a forelimb rather than a full wing.

And then we get into the genetic evidence which shows that modern birds still possess the genes for saurian features like teeth and long tails! A situation which is NOT reversed. That is to say, reptiles do not possess dormant avian genes, which effectively invalidates any argument that a god just used the same materials to make different creatures.

So you see, there is in fact a great deal of observed evidence for "macro" evolution.

@Budwick It's been observed several times.

It is, and there are. Off the top of my head, there are a bunch of cave animals with completely nonfunctional eyes which are gradually shrinking away into nothingness.

This is a bunch of drivel copied off some creationist non-source that's completely untrue where it isn't non-sensical.

Again, it has been observed, and experimented with. OTOH, by your logic, astrophysics isn't a science since we don't have stars inside any of our laboratories, therefore, stars are magic.

@OggggO

lmao well said

@Pikachu
I'm thinking descent with modification is not the same as evolution - or they will call it that.

@Budwick

Evolution is the name of the theory. Descent with modification is the mechanism by which it occur.

Now can you respond to the arguments i made in my post?
Thanks.

@Pikachu
The so called 'theory' will never be proven. Evolution doesn't exist.

@GodSpeed63 You keep saying that, despite providing no support for your position.

@GodSpeed63


That's your position, now it's time to back it up by responding directly to the subject of this thread.

Provide evidence which contraindicates evolution.
Can you do that or can you not?

So far the answer appears to be that you cannot.
Last chance.

@OggggO @Pikachu
We've shown you plenty of support that the Lord God lives but you've shown none for evolution.

@GodSpeed63 1. I'm Christian.
2. You're just straight up lying at this point.

@OggggO
1. That's debatable.

2. That too is debatable.

@GodSpeed63 No, neither are.

@GodSpeed63


Didn't ask you for support that your god is real.
I challenged you repeatedly and explicitly to provide evidence which contraindicates evolution.

You failed to supply that evidence and so you fail to hold my interest.
You are dismissed.

@Pikachu
I've been doing that but you will not see or hear our reports.

@GodSpeed63 Assertions are not evidence.

@OggggO
You got that right, so, quit asserting that evolution is factual.

@GodSpeed63 I've provided evidence, and you're extremely tedious.

@OggggO
What evidence?

@GodSpeed63 It was on a prior post of Pikachu's. I tried to find the specific post of one, but couldn't due to the number. As such, I'll be more than glad to provide it again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence_of_common_descent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Experimental_evolution
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_transitional_fossils