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I really enjoy reading the bible but i just can't get over the cruelty of it. [Spirituality & Religion]

Every time i read something like "And then they burned him and his family alive" or "and they killed every man, woman and child" it just bums me out.
How can this be the will of a loving god? That's a hard pill to swallow.

Thoughts?

[c=#BF0000]Edit*[/c][b][i][c=#BF0000]Can you imagine killing even a single little girl? That sweet, round little face looking up at you in terror as you cut her open? Much less THOUSANDS?! And that is what a just, loving, RIGHTEOUS god orders? I can't see that.[/c][/i][/b]

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GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
Yes, men are cruel due to the sinful nature in them.
@GodSpeed63

[quote]Yes, men are cruel do to the sinful nature in them.[/quote]

Yeah but it's not just about what humans do of their own accord.
It's also what god orders.

[quote]This is what the LORD of Heaven’s Armies has declared: I have decided to settle accounts with the nation of Amalek for opposing Israel when they came from Egypt. 3Now go and completely destroy the entire Amalekite nation—men, women, children, babies, cattle, sheep, goats, camels, and donkeys.”[/quote]

Kill all the women and children and babies.
All of them.
That's horrifying and cruel and that's an order from god.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu [quote]Yeah but it's not just about what humans do of their own accord.
It's also what god orders.[/quote]

What God orders is just and true. What men do in God's name is not always just and true. He is not the God of the dead but of the living.
@GodSpeed63

[quote]What God orders is just and true[/quote]

That's what you believe.
I don't believe the same. There is no excuse, no justification for mass murder of women, children and babies.
But of course you understand that fact. You understand that if any other person or any other god ordered that every man, woman, child, baby and animal should be slaughtered, you'd cry evil.
But you don't do that because it's your god.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu [quote]That's what you believe.[/quote]

That's what I know is true.
@GodSpeed63

Me: prove it
You: the proof is all around you
Me prove it
You: bible passage
And on and on.

Not interested, bud.
God orders babies to be put to death in their thousands. If you'd like to make an actual argument about why that should be considered good and just then i'm all ears.
If all you're prepared to do is make faith claims at me then i haven't the time nor inclination to humour you.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu [quote]God orders babies to be put to death in their thousands. If you'd like to make an actual argument about why that should be considered good and just then i'm all ears.[/quote]

Talk about the infant murders you support every day. Again, according to you, they are no more, according to God, they live in paradise.
@GodSpeed63

[quote]Talk about the infant murders you support every day[/quote]

No. No actually we won't be indulging your attempt to re-direct the focus.
If you want to talk about abortion then make a thread about it and we'll talk.

For now you will stay on topic or you will be dismissed.

Try again:

[c=#BF0000]God orders babies to be put to death in their thousands. If you'd like to make an actual argument about why that should be considered good and just then i'm all ears.[/c]
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu [quote]No. No actually we won't be indulging your attempt to re-direct the focus. [/quote]

Why not? You support those abortion clinics don't you?
@GodSpeed63

Your desperation to change the subject is telling.

[quote]Why not?[/quote]

Because this thread is not about abortion.
Like i said, make a thread about abortion an we'll talk about it there. In THIS thread we're talking about god and the babies he orders killed.

[i][b][c=#BF0000]God orders babies to be put to death in their thousands. If you'd like to make an actual argument about why that should be considered good and just then i'm all ears.
[/c][/b][/i]
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu [quote]Your desperation to change the subject is telling.
[/quote]

You're the one sounding desperate, my friend, not me. You're trying to blame God for the same thing that those abortion clinics are doing. You're something else.
@GodSpeed63

[quote]
You're the one sounding desperate, my friend, not me.[/quote]

...he said, conspicuously avoiding the subject of debate.

lol adorable. But i gave you a chance and you wasted it so i haven't any more time to play your little game.
Toodles🙂
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu [quote]...he said, conspicuously avoiding the subject of debate.[/quote]

Nice try but no Hershey Bar.