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I really enjoy reading the bible but i just can't get over the cruelty of it. [Spirituality & Religion]

Every time i read something like "And then they burned him and his family alive" or "and they killed every man, woman and child" it just bums me out.
How can this be the will of a loving god? That's a hard pill to swallow.

Thoughts?

[c=#BF0000]Edit*[/c][b][i][c=#BF0000]Can you imagine killing even a single little girl? That sweet, round little face looking up at you in terror as you cut her open? Much less THOUSANDS?! And that is what a just, loving, RIGHTEOUS god orders? I can't see that.[/c][/i][/b]

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Carazaa · F
I am praying God will open your eyes to the truths of the Bible.
Pikachu ·
@Carazaa

I'm not one of those people who denies god's right or authority to treat humanity in whatever way he pleases.
I just don't consider it moral.

It's not a moral act to butcher hundreds of thousands because people chose to love someone else.
I guess you think it is.
Pikachu ·
@Carazaa

Look at that little girl.

Ok, now tell me how it can be considered morally acceptable to kill her because he parents followed another god or did bad things.
Now tell me it's right for soldiers to kill her mother and then cut that baby down too.
Now tell me it's [i]right[/i] for that to be done to everyone she's ever known and the children of everyone she's ever known.

I don't know if you'll come out and say you think that's a morally right action.
If you do, then I do honestly wonder at the kind of faith that let's one make a claim like that.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
Yeah you believe in abortion and the killing of millions of unborn children in abortion chambers. Something wrong with your logic and your morals.@Pikachu
Pikachu ·
@Speedyman

We've already been over what i think the difference is. My moral logic remains internally consistent even if you disagree with my position.

But sine you have stuck your nose in here then you will now answer this question or you will be dismissed.

[c=#BF0000]Look at that little girl.

Ok, now tell me how it can be considered morally acceptable to kill her because he parents followed another god or did bad things.
Now tell me it's right for soldiers to kill her mother and then cut that baby down too.
Now tell me it's [i]right[/i] for that to be done to everyone she's ever known and the children of everyone she's ever known.

I don't know if you'll come out and say you think that's a morally right action.
If you do, then I do honestly wonder at the kind of faith that let's one make a claim like that.[/c]
Carazaa · F
@Pikachu This is a spiritual question. Because of mans sin we are separated from God. We can't reach him. God cares for All people. He lets it rain and sends sunshine on all. But God has made it clear that he hears our prayers anc answers those who love Him and then he will bless those families for 1000 generation. We do not know what God knows so we should never judge Him. He is Holy, and died to set us free from sin. He chooses us . Is that your little girl or did you get permission to put her on public display among perverted perps? Do you care about her?
Pikachu ·
@Carazaa

It's just a picture off google. But please don't try to redirect attention from murdering children by the thousands to "is it ok to repost a google image result".
Thanks.

[quote]We do not know what God knows so we should never judge Him[/quote]

And as a person of faith you can't question your god.
I don't have that same restriction and in fact i cannot do any different. I can't turn off my moral compass any more than you can.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
Why are you so concerned about the God you don’t believe in and these creatures which are just a bunch of chemicals to you? After all, your fellow atheist Stalin and Mao Didn’t worry about obliterating millions of people. As an atheist you should know that people don’t matter because they are not important as we are just animals @Pikachu
Pikachu ·
@Speedyman

[quote]Why are you so concerned about the God[/quote]

lol why do you keep asking the same question over and over and over and over and over and over and over and....

I'm reading the bible and i'm discussing that i find there. That includes the parts i have issues with.
Is that such a hard concept for you to grasp?

[quote]After all, your fellow atheist Stalin and Mao Didn’t worry about obliterating millions of people[/quote]

And your fellow followers in christ didn't worry about raping little boys and covering it up.
So maybe we should just stick to what you and i worry about, mmkay sport?😏

[quote]As an atheist you should know that people don’t matter because they are not important as we are just animals [/quote]

It's so sad that you only value humanity because you think a god does.
I value people despite the fact that we're all just animals.
Just because you're morally handicapped doesn't mean we all are.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
Why are you so concerned about other people instead of being concerned about yourself? Why don’t you go and get a job instead of being useless? You seem to judge everybody else but you don’t judge yourself by the same standard. Now I ask you why don’t you go and get a job instead of being uselessly employed on the Internet?@Pikachu
Pikachu ·
@Speedyman

lol did you just get fired or something? What's with this job thing? Or did you just get a job?
Carazaa · F
@Pikachu Roman Catholicism is not Christian in my opinion! You are talking about priests in the Catholic Church! Abusing kids is very sinful and I am so upset what some have done and so sorry for the victims! God bless them!
Speedyman · 70-79, M
Nope! But I’d fire you! Whydon’t You get a job instead of uselessly trolling the internet? @Pikachu]
Pikachu ·
@Carazaa

I am indeed talking about the catholic church. But the catholics are chrisitans even if you don't think they're doing christianity right.
They follow the teachings and religion of jesus christ. That's christian.
Carazaa · F
@Pikachu no they follow Mary and pray to the Pope and their saints and ancestors! It is Satanic!
Pikachu ·
@Carazaa

No. They venerate mary and the pope in addition to believing in jesus and god.
They have the same bible. They believe in the same god.

As i said, just because you think they're doing it wrong doesn't make them not christians.

But good to see the sentiment which has torn Ireland apart for decades is alive and strong in you.
Carazaa · F
@Pikachu nope they add to the Bible! It's like saying I am a democrat and hate foreigners, homeless, poor, and believe in borders, less government, and more military!
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong! I am a liar and a republican 😉
Speedyman · 70-79, M
Seems to me that the Democrats hate everybody from the stuff coming out of their meetings 🤣🤣🤣@Carazaa
Pikachu ·
@Carazaa

No it's not like that, carazaa.
They don't say not to love they neighbour. They don't say not to love god with all your strength. They don't say that there are other gods than god.
They believe in the teachings and religion of jesus christ just as you do.
There are minor distinctions and that's it.
And that's enough for you to call other people who love christ [i]satantic[/i].
That's sad.
Carazaa · F
@Pikachu Jesus said that Satan will stand in the Holy place in the end times and many many churches are deviating from the Bible! It is hard to find faithfully churches now! People have tickling ears! God gives us what we want and the Catholic Church is deviating from the Bible !It is very sad! Only true teachings will be blessed with true converts! So here we have hateful "Christians" and crazy doctrines where people don't know truth from a lie! I think the ONLY way to know truth is to read our Bibles! Because God will not tell us a lie when we are sinful and prideful and no tickling ears will serve God! If you finish the entire Bible you will see that we better realize we aren't so great as a people but God loves us enough to die for us to set us free from our bondage to sin. There is no savior to do that other than God himself for those who want to be free!
Reverend · M
@Carazaa The Majority of Roman Catholics will differentiate if asked if they are Christian. I have Catholic friends and they have no problem correcting someone that says that they are Christian. They make the point clear "We are Catholic, not Christian".
Reverend · M
@Pikachu other religions have a "Jesus" so to say they speak about but its not the Jesus of the bible. Some within the Christian demominations make their own Jesus instead of the Jesus of the bible, a good example of this is the Jehovah's Witnesses. The bible speaks of false Christ's and we are warned to stand in the faith. Loving Jesus doesnt make anyone satanic, but which Jesus do you love? Thats what makes the difference.
Carazaa · F
@Reverend 🌟I know! 🎄The Pope CAN'T forgive sin! Mormons believe he is an angel, Jehovah's Witness don't believe he is divine and don't believe in the trinity only Jehovah, muslims believe in Jesus as a prophet! New age believe in Jesus and all religions plus everything that feels good to them! One of the hallmark of the end times is false christs. Jesus warned us not to be deceive" My cheep hear my voice and follow me! "He said. "these are those who follow me those who obey my words, those who keep my commandments. These are the ones who love me! "
"Many will say Lord, Lord, did we not preach in your name? I will say to you, I never knew you"🌟
I think it is important to know the Bible and understand what God is telling us!
Carazaa · F
@Speedyman they don't hate refugees in general!
Pikachu ·
@Carazaa


Yeah, yeah. And just like them, you believe you're the one doing christianity right.
I guess time will tell.
Or of course, not.
Carazaa · F
@Pikachu Jesus is God Almighty who created everything, and "everything was made by Him that was made !" John 1:1

ANY OTHER Jesus is of Satan!