Jesus said "Only God can forgive sin. I can forgive sin!" [Spirituality & Religion]

@Pikachu Oh brother really 😏 You can't possibly believe that because there is evidence He lived. Now you're changing positions because last week you said yes, he lived but he was not God.

There is evidence he lived. So who was he?

You know something cutie, we should do a position change I take the atheist position and you take the Christian position and lets see if we really are as smart as we think we are with all the evidence we have presented for a good debate? How about it? Do we have a date?

@Carazaa

[quote]Now you're changing positions because last week you said yes, he lived but he was not God.[/quote]

Nope. Not changing my position. You have described it perfectly.
By "legend" i don't mean Jesus never existed, i mean that there was a legend around the man.

lol cutie am i?🤗

Yeah that sounds fun. What debate topics do you have in mind?

@Pikachu You gather your notes and we debate some time the opposite position. I take the atheist position, you take the Christian position and lets see what we can remember.

I will say something like. I am an atheist and I like to be in this reality where the facts stand for themselves. Evolution is a sure thing because we have fossils from millions of years ago, And obviously the Bible is wrong on the 7 day creation. Halleluiahs are so lame because they are wishful thinking when you don't have any hope at all, so you come up with a pie in the sky fantasy.
And more You Christians have really destroyed the world. If it weren't for you, there would not have been any wars or mass killings, and you use your religion to get elected. You hate homosexuals when they aren't hurting anyone, you hate atheists, and use satan to scare us. And god too. I believe in science because it is something that has been proven, you idiot!

@Carazaa

lol well i hope you'll try to take the position of a reasonable atheist and not a caricature and i assume you'll want me to do the same.

Why don't we start with morality?
Can morality exist without a divine origin?

@Carazaa You nailed it perfectly!
I thought it was Peek-a-boo writing!

@Pikachu You can take any stance you want, and be a caricature. As a atheist actor I would say I am more moral because I don't come up with absolutes like you stupid Christians. Why do you do that?

@Pikachu Isn't is more moral to just let people do whatever than making them feel guilty?

@Carazaa

Honestly i'm not really interested in playing caricatures because that's just a way to insult the other side.
Why don't we play the part of a [i]reasonable[/i] member of the other side?

@Pikachu I thought I did that?

@Pikachu OK if you don't want to play that;s fine but otherwise answer my question Isn't it more moral to let people do whatever than to be judgemental like you Christians? You are so judgmental, why do you do that?

@Carazaa

Hey, you play a fool if you want. I'm going to be a proper christian lol

[quote] Isn't it more moral to let people do whatever than to be judgemental [/quote]


No it's not more moral to let people do whatever they want. There are rules by which we live so that we can live together. To transgress these moral rules results in disharmony.
Even an atheist can recognize that there are certain moral guidelines which we value as humans whether they believe those rules come from god or not.

@Pikachu So what does that have to do with God? I am a moral person! I don't hurt a fly. So what does that have to do with god? huh? there is no evidence of god whatsoever except in your fantasies!

@Carazaa

[quote]So what does that have to do with God?[/quote]

Objective morality comes from god. That's how we learned the rules.

The evidence of god is the way he works in our lives.

@Pikachu We don't have to. I just thought it would be fun for a brain twist and if you could know why people even are Christians using our own reasons.

@Pikachu If you're working lets do this another day. I really don't like to disturb people when they are busy.

@Carazaa

No, no i'm happy to do this and i'm not working right now.🙂

@Carazaa

I mean if you want me to be a christian caricature i can try but i thought we should play it straight

@Carazaa I'm impressed that you are willing to consider taking the opposite position to your own. In my experience on here, not many Christians are willing to do so. You have my respect.

No but you have to debate with good arguments@Pikachu

@Bushranger Well gee that is nice of you to say. You can play too! So what if you are a Christian and I am an atheist I am moral who are you to be so hateful when I am not hurting anyone. What does god have to do with morality I am a moral person. You are no more moral than me?

@Carazaa A while ago I tried to do a post from a Christian point of view. Most difficult thing I'd tried, lol. But it could be fun to try again.

@Carazaa

lol well i'm trying but i don't think christian arguments are very good!

You pick a topic this time.

@Bushranger @Pikachu Since you are busy we'll do it another day!🙂 Got to run!

@Carazaa

Well we can do it like we normally do. Just leave a post and the other gets to it when they get to it.
Ok, catch ya later!

@Pikachu I have written a few questions already to you and Bushranger and you haven't answered so never mind!