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I don't know why religious folks reject the theory of evolution. [Spirituality & Religion]

Seems to me that someone could certainly believe that a god created life through evolution. Is the only answer that they believe the bible is literally true?
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
I once read an study that stated most people who accept evolution understand it, if you don't understand then you're most likely to not accept. This is further illustrated when talking to devout religious people that they don't understand. They cover up their lack of understanding through simplistic answers like "viruses that mutate are not the product of evolution, it's the devil" rather than anything scientific.
@SatanBurger

I'd agree with that. At least in my own experience the people who most violently reject evolution prove to have a poor understanding of the theory.
Speedyman · 70-79, M
I would say that people who question Darwinism have a far better understanding of it because they realise the flaws in the theory . Else you have to reckon on how a complicated organism like a cell put it self together by chance@Pikachu
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Speedyman The way you question it is worded in such a way that you don't understand it. It's quite clear.
@Speedyman

Ladies and gentlemen, case in point:

The theory of evolution does not explain how life began but how it subsequently evolved and not knowing how life began does not preclude the study of its development.

This is the most basic element of evolution theory and you have neatly demonstrated that you don't understand it....and reject evolution.

Thank you for demonstrating my point, speedy🙂
Speedyman · 70-79, M
You are so silly in that you do not appear to know what Darwinisn actually is@Pikachu
@Speedyman

Help me out, bud.

Explain specifically why it is necessary to know how life began in order to observe the evidence that it has subsequently evolved.

When you predictably fail to address this challenge you will prove that i am right and that you reject evolution without understanding it.

But do go ahead and prove me wrong....🙂
Speedyman · 70-79, M
No one is saying that evolution doesn’t happen. I wish you’d get that into your head. The point is for it to happen without an intelligent designer you need to create life in the first place and that you have singularly failed to show can happen. Of course we believe in evolution from the point of view of natural selection but he is the extrapolation is that Darwin brought in that are up for grabs which you don’t appear to be aware of in your gullible acceptance of Darwinism @Pikachu
@Speedyman

[quote]No one is saying that evolution doesn’t happen[/quote]

Well some people are but i'm glad to hear that you're not🙂

[quote]The point is for it to happen without an intelligent designer[/quote]

Well here's the thing. Nowhere in any of my posts have i insisted that there cannot be a creator. All i have ever done is demonstrate the evidence that evolution is responsible for the diversity of life on this planet.

Let's be more clear.

Do you, for example deny that modern birds evolved from theropod dinosaurs?
Speedyman · 70-79, M
Do you accept that nonliving matter can arrange itself into living cells? That is a more fundamental question@Pikachu
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Speedyman It's not what you think. All living things are composed of nonliving material including oxygen, carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, calcium, and phosphorus.

These form molecules and chemical reactions:

[b]https://thelogicofscience.com/2018/03/13/life-constantly-arises-from-nonliving-matter/[/b]
@Speedyman

Appears to be the case. Or maybe god done it. For the purposes of my question it's totally irrelevant. However life began it has since evolved.

Now then, i'll take a direct answer to my question please:

Let's be more clear.
Do you, for example deny that modern birds evolved from theropod dinosaurs?
Speedyman · 70-79, M
Interesting I’m just reading a book about the body and he says everything is composed of nonliving matter apart from one mysterious thing and that is life which no one can account for. How do you account for it? That nonliving matter produces life? We are made up of nonliving matter yet it lives@SatanBurger
Speedyman · 70-79, M
@Pikachu Will you answer my question on how life began and I’ll answer yours. Stop deflecting. You always do. Do you want to concern yourself with trivia yet you don’t answer the fundamental question
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Speedyman I just gave you a link to read about chemical reactions and the like. But I know this conversation isn't going to go anywhere relevant.
@Speedyman

I have answered yours many, many times.
The answer is that i don't know how life began and that evolution doesn't explain how life began, only how it diversified.

Now you have no excuse.

I'm asking you such simple question, why not just answer it so the discussion can move forward.

Do you, for example deny that modern birds evolved from theropod dinosaurs?
Speedyman · 70-79, M
You haven’t answered that question at all. My answer is the same as yours that I don’t know. It is a theory and like many theories of science in this field it is disputed. Your problem is that you still do not answer the fundamental question as to how nonliving matter became living. You are up the creek without a paddle. You seem to like to set problems without giving any answers. Life is about getting answers not setting problems@Pikachu
@Speedyman

[quote]You haven’t answered that question at all. My answer is the same as yours that I don’t know[/quote]

lol i like how you claim that i haven't answered and in the same breath try to co-op that as a satisfactory answer.

Remember, speedy: in science "i don't know" is a perfectly valid answer and in fact preferable to making up an answer without good evidence.

As for your answer being the same as mine, are you saying [b]you don't know if you deny[/b] that birds evolved from dinosaurs?
Have you looked at the evidence? What specific sticking points do you have?
Speedyman · 70-79, M
Listen boil the first question you have to answer with regard to Christianity is whether or not Jesus rose from the dead. The evolution of birds is not relevant to that question. If Jesus rose from the dead then what he said was true about himself. That is the fundamental question you’ve got to answer. You appear to me like a boy trying to do quadratic equations before you know 1+1=2@Pikachu
@Speedyman

Woops. Another deflection.

[c=#BF0000]As for your answer being the same as mine, are you saying [b]you don't know [/b]if you deny that birds evolved from dinosaurs?[/c]

Just answer me, dude. lol what are you afraid of? Oh that's right, admitting that you know nothing about that subject while still having an opinion on it...

[quote]whether or not Jesus rose from the dead. The evolution of birds is not relevant to that question[quote][/quote][/quote]

Um...agreed. And?
Speedyman · 70-79, M
I’m not afraid of anything. Just that you are projecting your own deflection. A well known psychological trait in people like you to cover your insecurities. Interesting when the great biologist, Francis Collins became a Christian his question was not about dinos but whether Jesus rose from the dead. That’s the question you have to ponder, not something which may or may not have happened in prehistory @Pikachu
@Speedyman

[c=#359E00]Me: Answer this question[/c]

[c=#800000]You: You are projecting your own deflection!!![/c]

😆😂😭

lol ok speedy. Whatever you say, bud.
You can go fight with someone else now because i've finished playing with you😏
Speedyman · 70-79, M
Thank goodness for that. That’s all you do play little games. For intellectual argument one has to go elsewhere. I’m afraid you are just a game player. You really need to grow up and start thinking@Pikachu