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Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Carazaa You should reread your first 2 chapters of the bible. Like the one where we inherit the earth and the plants. And the second part where humanity gets cursed for eating the piece of fruit of one of the trees that we shouldn't touch.
"We" according to the story, weren't even aware what "good" or "evil" was. We were totally oblivious to the concept, because we were made in that way. So Humanity wasn't even capable of making a moral descision. And then the creator says to the creation (that the creator forgot to give anny sense of morals) makes a "rule". Like ... How smart is that? You can only do something wrong, if you can make a judgement about what is "right " and "wrong", if you are unable too, then you can't do annything wrong because you are oblivious to the concept. But we got cursed annyway, because of his His mistakes. (see the 2nd version of the story). While the first version of the story says that we were going to inherit the world annyway... meaning that we needed to get out of the garden in some way or another, how else are we going to get out there? So you can make a good argument for the case that God wanted us out, like the average mom-dad that want their 32 year old son out of the door.
"We" according to the story, weren't even aware what "good" or "evil" was. We were totally oblivious to the concept, because we were made in that way. So Humanity wasn't even capable of making a moral descision. And then the creator says to the creation (that the creator forgot to give anny sense of morals) makes a "rule". Like ... How smart is that? You can only do something wrong, if you can make a judgement about what is "right " and "wrong", if you are unable too, then you can't do annything wrong because you are oblivious to the concept. But we got cursed annyway, because of his His mistakes. (see the 2nd version of the story). While the first version of the story says that we were going to inherit the world annyway... meaning that we needed to get out of the garden in some way or another, how else are we going to get out there? So you can make a good argument for the case that God wanted us out, like the average mom-dad that want their 32 year old son out of the door.
Carazaa · F
@Kwek00 no offense but no! We had everything and we lost it because we rebelled against God. He gave explicit directions and we did the opposite of what he said so we were tainted with sin. People just don't get how bad sin is it is so bad that one single sin will send you to hell! Sorry to tell you but our genetics is flawed because of sin and the curse and all our kids are separated from god because of that. God is sinless, all love, all perfection and we are separated forever.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Carazaa It's like saying to a baby, that it's wrong to crawl. Damn you baby! Damn you! I'll curse you out of the house, you'll have to work the barren lands and grow your own shit, and when you are a woman, I'll make you bleed at least once a month.
Oh, and here are some clothes before you leave... because somewhere in the back of mind, I know how ridiculous this all sounds. 😅
It's also pretty cool that you believe that your genetics are flawed because we sinned. It's like our internal mechanism changed because we did something immoral. That's how it works, genetics change when you sin.
Oh, and here are some clothes before you leave... because somewhere in the back of mind, I know how ridiculous this all sounds. 😅
It's also pretty cool that you believe that your genetics are flawed because we sinned. It's like our internal mechanism changed because we did something immoral. That's how it works, genetics change when you sin.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Carazaa
[quote]God is sinless, all love, all perfection and we are separated forever.
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If God was a world leader today... we would probably put him in front of a war-tribunal. For accusations of Genocide and actively calling out for the total destruction of the tribes living in a piece of land that He randomly gave away because... well... it's just cooler to give a piece of land away when you are all powerfull that is inhabbited, then a piece of land where no one is living on. When you are all powerfull, it's also pretty cool to tell your followers to murder, slaughter and break the stones (monuments and houses) like ISIS was doing. Because that's way cooler then asking these people to leave and just going: "well I'm going to slowly make you leave in peace and stuff, I just have other plans for this land".
It's also pretty cool of the non-sinning-all-perfect-god to send Moses to Pharao to ask Pharao to let His people go. Knowing full well that in the mean time the same God hardened Pharaos' heart so that Pharao would refuse Moses and he could demonstrate what plagues really mean in the old testament.
It's also pretty cool for the non-sinning-all-perfect-God to preach for forgiveness in the new-testament. But the moment he goes to Heaven, when a merchant and his wife sin against God... He just makes them drop dead. I guess that was Post-Jezus loving and carring right there.
[quote]God is sinless, all love, all perfection and we are separated forever.
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If God was a world leader today... we would probably put him in front of a war-tribunal. For accusations of Genocide and actively calling out for the total destruction of the tribes living in a piece of land that He randomly gave away because... well... it's just cooler to give a piece of land away when you are all powerfull that is inhabbited, then a piece of land where no one is living on. When you are all powerfull, it's also pretty cool to tell your followers to murder, slaughter and break the stones (monuments and houses) like ISIS was doing. Because that's way cooler then asking these people to leave and just going: "well I'm going to slowly make you leave in peace and stuff, I just have other plans for this land".
It's also pretty cool of the non-sinning-all-perfect-god to send Moses to Pharao to ask Pharao to let His people go. Knowing full well that in the mean time the same God hardened Pharaos' heart so that Pharao would refuse Moses and he could demonstrate what plagues really mean in the old testament.
It's also pretty cool for the non-sinning-all-perfect-God to preach for forgiveness in the new-testament. But the moment he goes to Heaven, when a merchant and his wife sin against God... He just makes them drop dead. I guess that was Post-Jezus loving and carring right there.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Harriet03 The worst thing is, that she probably thinks we are part of prophecy now. Because the bible tells it's followers that in the future, they will be questioned and mocked. It's pretty much the safety valve of every sect and cult, you tell your followers a bunch of crappy stuff and then add that "non-believers will point out it's crappy and mock you for it"... And BAM you have prophecy. Because it's pretty much unavoidable to not get mocked and questions if your head is spinning with stuff that doesn't hold up against scrutinity. The christians have it, the muslism have it even scientologists have it. Anny critic or skeptic, they all furfill the prophecies of charlatans of the past. 😅
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Harriet03 [quote]There is some truth to religion. All religions claim that all other religions are false & they're all 100% right about that!![/quote]
For once, you're right. The Lord God, Himself, hates man made organized religion.
For once, you're right. The Lord God, Himself, hates man made organized religion.
JBird · F
@GodSpeed63 so he must hates himself because God is man made too.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
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