Why does god keep hardening pharaoh's heart so he won't let the isrealites go? [Spirituality & Religion]

@Speedyman

But by the end god is still telling moses "I will harden pharaoh's heart so he will not let you go".
He's not telling moses "pharaoh's heart will be hardened against you".

He's telling moses that this is a thing he's doing so that the egyptians will spread the word of his power.

It was gods judgement against pharaoh for enslaving his people. Don't you think that was right for enslaving his people for two for 400 years or don't you believe in justice?@Pikachu

@Speedyman

[quote]Don't you think that was right for enslaving his people for two for 400 years [/quote]

No. I ablsolutely don't think that was right. Ignoring all the other plagues which would have had some pretty serious consequences, he killed every single first born son (even livestock) in egypt. As he says, from pharoah's son on his throne to the son of the female slave. Not sure how much enslaving she did of the isrealites.
Not sure how you call that right. Not sure how you can ever call the slaughter of children right. Not sure how we can characterize killing the children of an entire people [i]justice[/i].
Perhaps you can elaborate on why that should be considered justice.

Again you are thinking like a 20th century man. God told them what he was going to do. He had already warned them in the plagues of his power. Pharaoh chose to ignore it. Pharaoh had chosen a war with God by enslaving his people. God told him and demonstrated the consequences. But it is typical of man to blame God when disaster strikes when God has already in grace warned him. Just human nature - like you are showing now! 😄@Pikachu

@Speedyman

So describe it to me as a man of the time.
Describe how killing the first born son of EVERY egyptian family, even the slaves and servants is right and just. Explain from the perspective of those people how killing the children of an entire people is justice.
Can you do that or were you just using the 20th century thing as an excuse for why it seems abhorrent?

Again, you're ignoring scripture. There are times when Pharaoh CHOOSES not to let the isrealites god and there are times when god hardens his heart so that he will not.
The stated purpose of this AS DECLARED BY GOD is to show his power so that the people of egypt and the rest of the world will know he is god. So maybe pharaoh chose war with god. Explain from the perspective of the time how it is JUST for god to not allow pharaoh to admit defeat in that war.

Go on.

So you are saying you know better thanGod and are more righteous than him? Such presumption! 😄@Pikachu

@Speedyman

Actually what i'm saying is that i know better than [i]you[/i], speedy🙂

Because you're sitting there without even knowing what the bible actually says AND you can't even make a rational argument for your position.

Well of course you can't, speedy.
Genocide is not an easy thing to justify. Murdering the children of an entire country is a hard thing to justify.
I understand why you can't do it.
You have [i]faith[/i] that your god is not a blood thirsty tyrant and that when he kills thousands or millions it's the right thing to do.
You have faith. I get that.
So just say [i]that[/i] instead of pretending you have some kind of understanding which you do not have😉👍

Your problem is that you are like someone who is trying to understand mathematics and you try to understand quadratic equations rather than trying to begin with basic algebra. You really need to concentrate on trying to understand the gospels before you start trying to understand parts of the old Testament we see move it foreign to us these days having been used to 2000 years of Christianity with Christian values. It was of course the throwing aside of these Christian values that like people like Hitler and Stalin and Pol Pot and Mao to commit the genocide they did. As I pointed out to you the greatest mass murderers in the 20-century all embraced atheism. and rejected Christian values. So I think you better be starting with the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth and looking at those who rejected his teachings rather than the rather hypocritical condemnation of wars which took place thousands of years ago. Goodness so much blood has been shaped in a dying generation without you hypocritically criticising other generations. The problem is as soon as we believe like you do that we are just another species there are no holds barred. Just read Tom Holland’s latest book Dominion instead of your silly Internet sites to get a hold on that.@Pikachu

@Speedyman

Let me see if i can sum that up:

"No, i can't make an argument supporting my position and that's our fault for not understanding the NT the way i think it should be understood. Furthermore, you're a hypocrite for criticizing past genocide because....other people have committed genocide more recently and i'm not criticizing that...?"

lol

The problem is you’re a person who is not committed to any form of truth. You don’t want the truth and I’m not willing to investigate truth. You are the person who tries to pick holes in everything like the sceptic you sees through everything and sees nothing. Quite a pitiful state to be in really@Pikachu