Is God dead? [Spirituality & Religion]

@Speedyman The important difference is that there is evidence that Nietzsche lived. There is none for this "god" thing.

Nietzsche Died insane too! There is no evidence for anything you say yet you continue to churn your nonsense out. Perhaps if you did a bit of reading and research and got some education you might be a little less ignoran perhaps if you did a bit of reading and research and got some education you might be a little more informed @Sharon

@Speedyman There is no evidence for your claims yet you continue to churn your nonsense out. It is you who needs to get a bit of education and do some proper research. Perhaps then you wouldn't keep posting nonsense from idiotic christian websites.

There is plenty of evidence of course but people like you choose to ignore it because you have accepted atheism with all the blind faith of a fundamentalist. I haven't seen you give one piece of evidence for atheism in everything you've written yet you accept it with blind faith. You are the fundamentalist not me@Sharon

@Speedyman [quote]There is plenty of evidence[/quote]
Where? Despite being asked countless times, not one creationist has ever managed to produce a single shred. All they do is continue to spout nonsense and make further unsupported claims.

No evidence is needed to not believe something for which there is no evidence. It is that lack of evidence that leads to that non-belief.

you're a bit of a airhead aren't you. It's just an ironic saying. I think it just proves how little you know@Emosaur

The very fact we see design all around us and the very fact you have countless cells in your body which are quite obviously designed . Don't get design without an intelligent designer. Design does not come from unguided forces. But you obviously are the sort of person who will choIse ignorance over knowledge@Sharon @Sharon

@Speedyman [quote]cells in your body which are quite obviously designed [/quote]
It's not obvious at all.

[quote]Don't get design without an intelligent designer.[/quote]
So where did this "intelligent designer" come from? By [b]your own argument[/b] it could not have just appeared from nothing.

[quote]Design does not come from unguided forces. [/quote]
Who says evolution is unguided? No reputable scientist does. It's actually a strawman argument put about by ignorant creationists.

Well what guides evolution? We know that the only way design can happen is through intelligence. As cells contain both uniqueness and specificity which is a sign of design, how can unguided forces produce this design? The fact is that your theory is put about by England people who actually know nothing about the irigin of design@Sharon

@Speedyman [quote]Well what guides evolution? [/quote]
The environment. It really is that simple.

Now I've done you the courtesy of answering your question, you can do me the courtesy of answering mine. I'll repeat it here for you - [b]Where did this "intelligent designer" come from? By your own argument it could not have just appeared from nothing.[/b]

So before there was environment, what then? God has always been there. He is eternal. @Sharon

@Speedyman [quote]So before there was environment, what then?[/quote]
An environment, in the form of a singularity, has always been there, It is eternal. Time is meaningless before the "big bang" as that is when time started.

@Speedyman So the universe has always been there, so there’s no need to postulate magical entities.

@Speedyman [quote]evidence for atheism[/quote]

lol! You believe that there’s a french-speaking zebra hiding in my wardrobe, so you? If not, then where’s your evidence?

Yes but even if you go back to a singularity you've got to see who put it there. And if you believe in naturalistic evolution you have to have the awkward question that to involve a sell by chance would take longer than the time of the universe's existence anyway@Sharon

@Speedyman [quote]what guides evolution?[/quote]

Natural selection, of course.

Com on, this is basic stuff

@Speedyman [quote]you've got to see who put it there[/quote]

Why?

Remember, in the singularity there’s no spacetime, so it’s meaningless to speak of anything ‘before’ or ‘after’.

@Speedyman [quote]Yes but even if you go back to a singularity you've got to see who put it there.[/quote]
Yes but even if you go back to a god you've got to see what put it there. Any answer you give to that can be equally well applied to the singularity.

No matter how small a probability, it could occur on the first attempt. That's how probability works.

@Speedyman Ah yes, the classic creationist nonsense.

Why would it take longer than the existence of the expanding universe to evolve a cell?

Obviously it didn’t, because we see cells here now, but you’re making the claim that 4.5 billion years isn’t long enough for cellular life to evolve. On what are you basing that claim?

Well you're talking the classic evolutionist nonsense. People are a lot cleverer than me I've done calculations and they calculate that even under the most favourable conditions that a cell could not have evolved by chance in the history of the whole universe @newjaninev2

@Speedyman [quote]a cell could not have evolved by chance in the history of the whole universe [/quote]
Why not? The very definition of chance means that it could happen - and quite obviously did.

@Speedyman Oh, I see, so these really really really clever people ‘did calculations’, and those ‘calculations’ were so robust that they went right ahead and published them in a creationist pamphlet, did they?

@Speedyman I'm still waiting for you to answer my question. Here it is again in case you've forgotten - [b]Where did this "intelligent designer" come from? By your own argument it could not have just appeared from nothing.[/b]

Oh you are stupid. I haven't come up with this intelligent designer business there are many people cleverer than me. How unearth do you think the design of the cell came about unless intelligence designed it? We know only intelligence can produce design which has specificity and uniqueness so how unearth did something as complex as a cell get designed unless it was intelligence? Or do you think Bill Gates gets blind forces to write computer programs for him? @Sharon