Is the god of the bible a moral being? [Spirituality & Religion]

@NewBecky lol okay

@NewBecky Whatever you say, it makes no difference to me.

@Sharon It is not what I say. Christ said "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No man comes unto the Father but by me." God gives and sustains life. So, the question is not whether or not it is moral for God to kill. The question is, will we turn to Him for life?

@NewBecky So do you deny that if God is omnipotent, then not only is he the way the truth and the life, but that he is also not the way, not the truth and not life. AKA, he is lying and death as well?

It seems like you can't want him to be all these good things and not all the bad things as well.

@Pherick No, it is a matter of understanding that death is separation from God. He is life. He is not death because death is separation from Him. He is the way, the truth, and the Life.

@NewBecky [quote]Christ said "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No man comes unto the Father but by me."[/quote]
So you say but I see no evidence to support that claim. Another person could make the same claims about The Flying Spaghetti Monster.

@Pherick Also, it has been said that God cannot ceeate a stone so very large that He cannot pick it up. It is a silly truth but it is also an answer to your question, God's omnipotence is power in truth. He is not able to lie but lieing is not a power..

@NewBecky [quote]death is separation from god[/quote]
Your logic is flawed. I don't believe in your god yet I'm still alive.

@Sharon This chat is not sufficient to write everything in "The Case For Christ" but if you need evidence then have a look at the book that considers the evidence... as it was studied by an atheist.

@NewBecky So god is not death, he is not omnipotent. Why would I follow a god who isn't omnipotent? Seems like a poor choice for a god.

@Pherick How much poer is there in a dead person? Do you think there is power in death? Death has no power. "Death, where is your sting?"

@NewBecky [quote]have a look at the book that considers the evidence... as it was studied by an atheist.[/quote]

Which Atheist? Lee Strobel is an apologist not an Atheist.

@Sharon He is sustaining your life... in mercy. You have a chance to repent of sin because the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life thru Jesus Christ.

@Sharon He was an atheist working for a Chicago paper when he studied the evidence. NOW he is a Christian apologist. You should consider the evidence that he found.

@NewBecky [quote] He is sustaining your life.[/quote]
No he isn't. I could just as well say The Flying Spaghetti Monster is sustaining my life and present exactly the same amount of evidence to prove it as you have presented to support your claims.

@NewBecky [quote]He was an Atheist working for a Chicago paper when he studied the evidence. [/quote]
What evidence? All he's has is a load of unsupported propaganda. Every time I've looked at "the evidence" all I've ever found are unsupported claims and propaganda. If real evidence existed, all that rubbish would be unnecessary.

@NewBecky His "atheism" in doubt by his own words,

https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2009/01/02/lee-strobel-answers-your-questions-part-1/

[quote]However, in the interest of total disclosure, let me add that my problems with faith were not solely intellectual. I had a vested interest in the non-existence of God because I was living a rather immoral lifestyle and did not want to be held accountable for my behavior. To me, atheism opened up a world of hedonism that I knew wouldn’t be acceptable to God if he existed.

(Let me be clear: I’m not saying that all atheists are hedonists. I’m just saying that, for me, atheism cleared the way for me to live a self-indulgent, me-first, narcissistic life. And to be honest, to this day I can’t figure out why atheists would choose any other path, although I know many do.)[/quote]

In other words, I didn't care if there was a god or not, I was just an asshole. No person who is an atheist is an atheist so they can be hedonistic, thats just ridiculous.

@Pherick Also if we are going Athiest to Christian, lets go the other way shall we?


https://www.salon.com/2013/03/27/5_religious_leaders_who_became_outspoken_atheists_partner/

https://www.npr.org/2012/04/30/151681248/from-minister-to-atheist-a-story-of-losing-faith

@NewBecky Why would an omniscient God create beings he already knows will not worship him?..and then send them to Hell!

@Pherick It does not matter the reasons for Lee Strobel's original atheistic position. It does not matter how many convert from atheism to Christianity or vice versa. What matters is the evidence which led Lee Strobel to a relationship with Christ.

@Entwistle He created man with his own freewill. You are not free to love on your own unless you are also free to hate or at least to dislike. Freedom to obey would also have the freedom to disobey. Hell is a terrible place, but what makes it terrible is the absence of order... like the splitting of an atom. It is the absence of God. God is not truly omnipresent because He is not in 1 place, hell. He is life and hell is the absence of life, order, peace... But, you are welcome to reject Him... it is your perogative.

@NewBecky You totally failed to understand my question.

@NewBecky [quote]What matters is the evidence.[/quote]
Exactly! Now, where is the real evidence to support the idea of your particular supernatural being?

@NewBecky [quote]He created man with his own freewill. [/quote]
You can believe that if you wish. Just accept that not everyone agrees.

@Sharon I do not have the time to copy "The Case For Christ" for you. You need to read the book in order to fully understand why we say that there is a mountain of evidence.