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What is belief in God? You may know OF Him, but do you actually KNOW Him? [Spirituality & Religion]

Can a person believe in some sense, but not be saved?

There are different levels of belief, and different objects of belief, and not all that’s called “belief” is actually saving faith. James 2:19 says, “You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.” So, if a person simply believes that there is a God in heaven—and that’s the extent of his faith—then he has exactly the same faith as the demons of hell. That’s not saving faith, even though it involves a measure of belief. Therefore, yes, a person can “believe” in some sense, but not be saved.

Believing is so much more than head knowledge. It is Heart knowledge, and a desire to turn from your sins and follow Jesus. It’s like the husband who desires and believes that his wife has given full commitment and love to him, and not just half her heart, however, the real proof, is in her actions, which reflect what’s truly in her heart for her husband. The manner in which we talk and conduct our daily lives...the way we love and serve Jesus after we are saved, reflects our love for Him. Someone who loves Jesus, does not serve Him out of obligation, but from the deep love, he or she feels in their heart for Him.

It is quite possible for a person to have an initial positive response to the gospel without being saved. He may feel his heart stirred at the stories about Jesus. He may even identify with Christ through baptism and church membership and get involved in ministry—all the while not being born again. We see instances of this in Scripture (Matthew 7:21–23; 13:24–30) and in everyday life.

We can illustrate the disconnect between some kinds of “belief” and saving faith this way: many Americans are overweight, and at the same time there are thousands of weight-loss products available. People will see an infomercial about the latest home exercise equipment, and they say, “That’s just what I need!” and they buy the equipment. They receive their purchase and eagerly use it—for a couple of weeks. Six months later it’s back in the box packed away somewhere. What happened? They believed in a product, but it wasn’t the type of belief that led to lower body weight. Nothing really changed in their lives. They had an initial positive response, but rather than possessing genuine “faith,” so to speak, they were merely indulging a passing fancy. People do this with Christ as well (see Matthew 13:5–7).

In Matthew 7:21–23 Jesus says, “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’” Notice here that these people were actively involved in ministry, but they were not genuine believers. They had faith of a sort—they acknowledged who Jesus is—but they had no relationship with Him. Jesus does not say that at one time He knew them, but then He later rejected them. No. He says, “I never knew you.” In other words, they were never saved to begin with!

Even Judas is never presented as a disciple who lost his salvation; rather, he is one who had never truly believed unto salvation (see John 6:64).

God knows our hearts. We, however, cannot see the hearts of other people, and may often be deceived about our own hearts, as well. That’s why Paul writes, “Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you—unless, of course, you fail the test?” (2 Corinthians 13:5). If we want confidence about our spiritual situation, we need to do more than look back to some words we said in the past when we “accepted Christ”; we need to also examine our current condition to see if there is evidence of God’s work in our lives today—changing us from within, convicting us of sin, and drawing us to repentance.

God is no fool, nor can He be fooled. He knows our heart, our motives, our intentions. We reap what we sow. Commitment, faith, and faithfulness, will!

The epistle of 1 John is important because it provides many signs of saving faith, so that we can know that our faith is genuine (see 1 John 5:13). Also, believers have the gift of the Holy Spirit, and “the Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God’s children” (Romans 8:16).
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biohak · 36-40, M
Enjoy.. make sure you eat before you go;p
😂 😂 I did. 👍 😊 @biohak
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Oh please. Don’t insult God or His capabilities. Nothing is too hard for God. Your problem is that you are trying to figure God out with your fallible mind. And I don’t mean that in a snotty way. God said there’s no way we can figure out his ways, because we just don’t have that capability. In other words, we are not smarter nor wiser than God! However, when one is saved, God places the Holy Spirit in our person, and He teaches us God’s ways.

Faith is central to how anyone receives the validity or value of God’s inspired Word because “the man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned” (1 Corinthians 2:14). The “spiritual man” is the one who has been given the gift of faith (Ephesians 2:8–9) for the salvation of his soul. Hebrews 11:1 tells us, “Faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.” There is a righteousness in the gospel revealed by God in the Scriptures, but our righteousness comes and is maintained by and through faith alone. “The righteous will live by faith” (Romans 1:17).

It is clear that we differ on the subject, so we may as well just agree to disagree. I am not for going back-and-forth on this forever. Whatever you believe is fine. To each their own.

@biohak
biohak · 36-40, M
That is a whole lot of human judgement... who are you to tell people if they deserve to burn in hell or not ? The arrogance of this is disgusting you don’t know if there is a god or not stop pretending you do. Your heart knowledge is meaningless the heart can’t know anything it’s a fucking muscle
How awesome and incredible that over 100 prophesies were fulfilled by Jesus. And many years, even centuries, some of them, before they were fulfilled. I’d like to see anyone else accomplish that with perfect accuracy. Impossible! Only the Spirit can do that. That’s the mark of a true prophet. All came true. Here’s just 44 of them....(Carazaa first gave this list. Thank you for looking these up. Must give credit where credit is due.) I don’t think she’d mind my sharing them with you. These are not coincidental! Isaiah prophesied 500 years BEFORE Jesus died on the cross, that He would come as Savior of the world and would be crucified, but not one bone would be broken in His body. He was dead on! That prophecy came true with precise accuracy. Now how did he know that? God told him! Do you really think that as a prophet of God, Isaiah would’ve put his reputation on the line and given such an accurate description of Jesus‘s death, if he thought it would make him look like a fool? Hardly!

Prophecies of Jesus Old Testament
Scripture, fulfilled in the New Testament

1 Messiah would be born of a woman. Genesis 3:15 Matthew 1:20
Galatians 4:4
2 Messiah would be born in Bethlehem. Micah 5:2 Matthew 2:1
Luke 2:4-6
3 Messiah would be born of a virgin. Isaiah 7:14 Matthew 1:22-23
Luke 1:26-31
4 Messiah would come from the line of Abraham. Genesis 12:3
Genesis 22:18 Matthew 1:1
Romans 9:5
5 Messiah would be a descendant of Isaac. Genesis 17:19
Genesis 21:12 Luke 3:34
6 Messiah would be a descendant of Jacob. Numbers 24:17 Matthew 1:2
7 Messiah would come from the tribe of Judah. Genesis 49:10 Luke 3:33
Hebrews 7:14
8 Messiah would be heir to King David's throne. 2 Samuel 7:12-13
Isaiah 9:7 Luke 1:32-33
Romans 1:3
9 Messiah's throne will be anointed and eternal. Psalm 45:6-7
Daniel 2:44 Luke 1:33
Hebrews 1:8-12
10 Messiah would be called Immanuel. Isaiah 7:14 Matthew 1:23
11 Messiah would spend a season in Egypt. Hosea 11:1 Matthew 2:14-15
12 A massacre of children would happen at Messiah's birthplace. Jeremiah 31:15 Matthew 2:16-18
13 A messenger would prepare the way for Messiah Isaiah 40:3-5 Luke 3:3-6
14 Messiah would be rejected by his own people. Psalm 69:8
Isaiah 53:3 John 1:11
John 7:5
15 Messiah would be a prophet. Deuteronomy 18:15 Acts 3:20-22
16 Messiah would be preceded by Elijah. Malachi 4:5-6 Matthew 11:13-14
17 Messiah would be declared the Son of God. Psalm 2:7 Matthew 3:16-17
18 Messiah would be called a Nazarene. Isaiah 11:1 Matthew 2:23
19 Messiah would bring light to Galilee. Isaiah 9:1-2 Matthew 4:13-16
20 Messiah would speak in parables. Psalm 78:2-4
Isaiah 6:9-10 Matthew 13:10-15, 34-35
21 Messiah would be sent to heal the brokenhearted. Isaiah 61:1-2 Luke 4:18-19
22 Messiah would be a priest after the order of Melchizedek. Psalm 110:4 Hebrews 5:5-6
23 Messiah would be called King. Psalm 2:6
Zechariah 9:9 Matthew 27:37
Mark 11:7-11
24 Messiah would be praised by little children. Psalm 8:2 Matthew 21:16
25 Messiah would be betrayed. Psalm 41:9
Zechariah 11:12-13 Luke 22:47-48
Matthew 26:14-16
26 Messiah's price money would be used to buy a potter's field. Zechariah 11:12-13 Matthew 27:9-10
27 Messiah would be falsely accused. Psalm 35:11 Mark 14:57-58
28 Messiah would be silent before his accusers. Isaiah 53:7 Mark 15:4-5
29 Messiah would be spat upon and struck. Isaiah 50:6 Matthew 26:67
30 Messiah would be hated without cause. Psalm 35:19
Psalm 69:4 John 15:24-25
31 Messiah would be crucified with criminals. Isaiah 53:12 Matthew 27:38
Mark 15:27-28
32 Messiah would be given vinegar to drink. Psalm 69:21 Matthew 27:34
John 19:28-30
33 Messiah's hands and feet would be pierced. Psalm 22:16
Zechariah 12:10 John 20:25-27
34 Messiah would be mocked and ridiculed. Psalm 22:7-8 Luke 23:35
35 Soldiers would gamble for Messiah's garments. Psalm 22:18 Luke 23:34
Matthew 27:35-36
36 Messiah's bones would not be broken. Exodus 12:46
Psalm 34:20 John 19:33-36
37 Messiah would be forsaken by God. Psalm 22:1 Matthew 27:46
38 Messiah would pray for his enemies. Psalm 109:4 Luke 23:34
39 Soldiers would pierce Messiah's side. Zechariah 12:10 John 19:34
40 Messiah would be buried with the rich. Isaiah 53:9 Matthew 27:57-60
41 Messiah would resurrect from the dead. Psalm 16:10
Psalm 49:15 Matthew 28:2-7
Acts 2:22-32
42 Messiah would ascend to heaven. Psalm 24:7-10 Mark 16:19
Luke 24:51
43 Messiah would be seated at God's right hand. Psalm 68:18
Psalm 110:1 Mark 16:19
Matthew 22:44
44 Messiah would be a sacrifice for sin. Isaiah 53:5-12 Romans 5:6-8

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biohak · 36-40, M
Fresh as yesterday’s newspaper eh.. so how come it didn’t mention dinasaurs or Neanderthals or any ther thing we all know about now nothing in the bible about anything the average person didn’t know in that time@LadyGrace
No. I said as fresh as tomorrow’s newspaper, as it predicts the future. It does mention dinosaurs. Study it. There’s nothing in the Bible that the average person doesn’t know? Are you kidding me? There is a plethora of information in the Bible that people don’t know. So you know everything there is to know about what’s in the Bible, the future and all?

@biohak
biohak · 36-40, M
Again you’re coming at it as if it’s a fact that there is a god, he spoke to men and those men wrote what he said down verbatim. If so why did he say it was ok to have slaves and if the masters are perverts it’s ok you should indulge them because you are a slave
You’re not understanding scripture right.

I’m out of here. I’ve got grocery shopping to do. @biohak

 
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