Science Really Does Point To God [Spirituality & Religion]
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61-69, M
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hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Julien Your science is too small.
Julien · 36-40, M
At this point I can't argue with you and you can't argue with me , let's agree to disagree :)
BiblicalWarrior · 51-55, M
@Julien Science simply means knowledge.
CharlieZ · 70-79, M
@BiblicalWarrior No.
Science is defined by it´s object, the natural World.
And was born as it is about 400 years ago, when and because it emancipated from Philosophy and Religión.
If not so, it would have not the results it had and haves. And would not be Science at all,
The ancient latin word Scientia, as general knowledge do not reflect what Science specifically is.
No other branch of knowledge hold the quality criteria in giving the best available causal description of the material world, it´s object.
Science is defined by it´s object, the natural World.
And was born as it is about 400 years ago, when and because it emancipated from Philosophy and Religión.
If not so, it would have not the results it had and haves. And would not be Science at all,
The ancient latin word Scientia, as general knowledge do not reflect what Science specifically is.
No other branch of knowledge hold the quality criteria in giving the best available causal description of the material world, it´s object.
CharlieZ · 70-79, M
@GodSpeed63 I believe in God, but that´s my faith.
To do Science is irrelevant if you are atheist, esceptic, religious, from one faith or another different one.
The prove of this is that scientists of differents worldviews do it together and do it well.
And been doing this with excelent results along History.
Amongst other things, no one of them would remotely tolerate to submitt Science to the rule of their OWN religion.
Cos they know that Science was born when Science was emancipated from them. Or would not work as it does.
The prove of this is that the First Philosophies (besides other merits) had never, not once in millenia, gave us a good description of the natural world and not even a serious one in scientific terms. While Science does.
Does this denies or refutes God? No. It can´t.
Does it confirms Him? Neither. It can´t.
You can find a clue making more general the famous quote of Galileo (not really his, but he also said it): "The Scriptures shows how to go to Heaven and not how the Heaven goes".
This is the attitude of most of scientists, almost all of them.
I find it a good one.
And, as a personal adenum, I will say: I don´t see Science leading to God but (as for my faith) I believe that God leaded me to Science.
So I´ll do it the best as I can, as my fellow scientists did and do, pointing honestly, in this, to the object of Science (the natural world), with the agenda of Science and no other other one.
Just as my fellows, that are christians, jews, muslims, budhists, from other "credos", agnostics and atheists DO.
Also just as them, I would not tolerate to put my service and Science under the guide of other worldviews other than the scientific, no matter wich one.
Of course, the ones who believe may share that God is above all.
But, sorry, I have about the interpretation of the will of God an opinión of the religious thinkers not so different than the one you have about the interpretations of scientists.
About Science, I see them saying what I sincerelly doubt that God think and, for sure, no doubt, what Science do not say.
The last (what Science do not say) asserts, as it is published at the present, also for ID.
I hope that this, knowing we will never agree, makes my position more clear.
To do Science is irrelevant if you are atheist, esceptic, religious, from one faith or another different one.
The prove of this is that scientists of differents worldviews do it together and do it well.
And been doing this with excelent results along History.
Amongst other things, no one of them would remotely tolerate to submitt Science to the rule of their OWN religion.
Cos they know that Science was born when Science was emancipated from them. Or would not work as it does.
The prove of this is that the First Philosophies (besides other merits) had never, not once in millenia, gave us a good description of the natural world and not even a serious one in scientific terms. While Science does.
Does this denies or refutes God? No. It can´t.
Does it confirms Him? Neither. It can´t.
You can find a clue making more general the famous quote of Galileo (not really his, but he also said it): "The Scriptures shows how to go to Heaven and not how the Heaven goes".
This is the attitude of most of scientists, almost all of them.
I find it a good one.
And, as a personal adenum, I will say: I don´t see Science leading to God but (as for my faith) I believe that God leaded me to Science.
So I´ll do it the best as I can, as my fellow scientists did and do, pointing honestly, in this, to the object of Science (the natural world), with the agenda of Science and no other other one.
Just as my fellows, that are christians, jews, muslims, budhists, from other "credos", agnostics and atheists DO.
Also just as them, I would not tolerate to put my service and Science under the guide of other worldviews other than the scientific, no matter wich one.
Of course, the ones who believe may share that God is above all.
But, sorry, I have about the interpretation of the will of God an opinión of the religious thinkers not so different than the one you have about the interpretations of scientists.
About Science, I see them saying what I sincerelly doubt that God think and, for sure, no doubt, what Science do not say.
The last (what Science do not say) asserts, as it is published at the present, also for ID.
I hope that this, knowing we will never agree, makes my position more clear.
