The Sri Lanka bombings were retaliation they say for the Muslim mosque attack in New Zealand. [Spirituality & Religion]

But the New Zealand attack was not done by a Christian, but a right wing radical hating Muslims they said today on the news.
As Christians we are to love our enemies. We would never retaliate. Remember Christians we are to show the love of God! We are different than the world. Are we showing the love of God to the world, and to Muslims?

"Love your enemies, and those who despitefully use you" Jesus says.

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Pikachu

Nah man. That's just a no true scotsman fallacy.

All that makes you a chrsitian is to follow the teachings and religion of jesus christ.
An individual may fall short in certain respects just as you do.
The fact that they may not be an ideal christian doesn't mean you get to exclude them from the group.

Carazaa · F

@Pikachu Nah man.

I have no right to tell someone he is no Scotsman or American, but I sure can tell someone that they are not a Christian. How? Because Jesus defined the term. Born again Christians will be loving because we walk in truth, the Holy Spirit came inside us when we were born again.
Many call themselves Christians but NO they are not!
No one who hates their enemies is a Christian. They lie!

John 14:15-24

"If you love me, keep my commands. 16And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever- 17the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you. 18I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. 19Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. 20 On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.

21Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them." 22 Then Judas (not Judas Iscariot) said, "But, LORD, why do you intend to show yourself to us and not to the world?" 23Jesus replied, "Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. 24Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me."

Pikachu

@Carazaa

I have no right to tell someone he is no Scotsman or American

I think you've misunderstood what is meant by a no true Scotsman fallacy.
It means that in order to defend your category from counter examples, you change the definition to protect that category.

In this case you're attempting to exclude christians from the category of christian on the basis that they have not succeeded in keeping to all the tenets of the religion. Well surprise, neither have your nor anyone else. By your metric, virtually NO ONE can be considered a true christian.
A christian is someone who accepts jesus christ as god and their personal saviour and believes in his teachings and religion.
There is no stipulation that one must successfully adhere to every element of the religion.
There is no stipulation that all of the innumerable sects of christianity must agree on what it means.
Do you understand?

Just because you value certain tenets more highly, and even if they ARE more valuable, it does not justify the exclusion from the category.

So people can do bad things and STILL be christian. Maybe you don't think they're being GOOD christians but that doesn't make them not christian at all.

So please, don't attempt to distance yourself or your religion from the acts of its adherents through faulty logic.
Accept the reality and deal with it.

Carazaa · F

@Pikachu

No the no scotsman fallacy does not apply here.

I am using Jesus own definition of a Christian. I don't think you read my quote from Jesus. I am not changing the definition, Jesus said there is one standard and that is to be born again by the Holy Spirit, evident by being loving. That is specific. I am not changing the definition of a Christian.

No true Scotsman or appeal to purity is an informal fallacy in which one attempts to protect a universal generalization from counterexamples by changing the definition in an ad hoc fashion to exclude the counterexample. Rather than denying the counterexample or rejecting the original claim, this fallacy modifies the subject of the assertion to exclude the specific case or others like it by rhetoric, without reference to any specific objective rule ("no true Scotsman would do such a thing"; i.e., those who perform that action are not part of our group and thus criticism of that action is not criticism of the group).

Pikachu

@Carazaa

Yes, thank you for quoting the definition of the fallacy you're committing.

You are changing the definition of a christian by pretending that if a person does not live up to the tenets of the religion then they are not christian.

I've already explain the mistake in my previous post.

Carazaa · F

@Pikachu

God has called us to test the spirits.

"Dear friends, don't believe everyone who claims to have the Spirit of God. Test them all to find out if they really do come from God. Many false prophets have already gone out into the world," 1 John 4:1