The overwhelming evidence that Evolution has occurred can be ignored because we don't know the ultimate origins of life. True or false? [Spirituality & Religion]

@Carazaa

[quote]Evolution is illogical faith without evidence.[/quote]

Nope.

There's a great deal of evidence.
We can discuss some of it if you like. We can also discuss how evolution better accounts for that evidence than creation can.

@Carazaa No, the evidence for evolution is overwhelming. This is why it’s both scientific fact and theory.

Nope!@Pikachu

@QuixoticSoul No

@Carazaa Yes.

@Carazaa

Refusing to even expose yourself to the evidence of evolution but still declaring that it is illogical and faith based is dishonest.

You're not dishonest, are you?

@Carazaa @QuixoticSoul @Pikachu

Perhaps the 3 of your can read this and then have a more meaningful debate

https://www.iep.utm.edu/faith-re/

It seems to be unbiased, showing the history of the conflict and confluence of faith and reason.

@Carazaa [quote]Evolution is illogical faith without evidence. Creation is faith that is logical.[/quote]

Amen to that!!

@JoeyFoxx That’s a good summary of the philosophical systems we’ve built up to deal with the concept of faith (as always, Kierkegaard is my favorite here, because he accepts and owns the fundamental irrationality of religious belief).

But it’s not all that relevant to this particular topic, because the topic has little to do with religious faith. Denying evolution isn’t really about faith, god, reason, etc. It’s about denial of evidence - piles and piles of interdisciplinary evidence, akin to stubbornly maintaining that the earth is flat.

To take Gould’s definition of a scientific fact - it’s data that’s been "confirmed to such a degree that it would be perverse to withhold provisional assent". That is what we are dealing with.