Be honest: when you read the bible what makes you think it is of divine origin? [Spirituality & Religion]

@OggggO

lol such is the nature of personal revelation.
Unfortunately i have no such feeling.

@Pikachu I wish I could share it with other people. It’s a wonderful feeling and I want everyone to experience it.

@Pikachu It is not personal revelation if it is shared by people spanning thousands of years. I can read a book like Confessions by St Augustine and know exactly what he is expressing because I have experienced it too. Likewise reading St Paul and being washed with a LOVE that can not be explained as St Paul wrote.

@hippyjoe1955

Sorry, you misunderstood my meaning, joe.

I didn't mean that his revelation was personal in that it is uncommon. I meant personal in the sense that the only experience of OggggO's feeling when reading the bible is in his mind. So no matter how true it may feel or be, he cannot communicate or prove that feeling to someone else, especially not someone who has not experienced the same thing.

Such is the nature of personal revelation.

@Pikachu I understood exactly what you meant and what you said. Too bad the same can not be said of you. I might as well be trying to explain quadratics to a tse tse fly as discuss things of the Spirit with you. As Jesus said "You must be born from above" and you clearly are not. You can fix that if you want. But it is your choice. Failure to take it will still leave you on the outside looking in wondering what is happening.

@hippyjoe1955

Um... a bit of a hair trigger there, eh joe?

When you said "It is not personal revelation if it is shared by people spanning thousands of years", it sounded like you didn't understand what i meant by personal revelation.

I'm glad you understood what i meant🙂

@OggggO Im glad that you feel comfort from it and it has made you a better person. I wish my journey had been like that. But it wasn't:( Sadly some people are as the Bible says false prophets and you will know them by the fruits they bare.

@hippyjoe1955 Would you please stop actively driving people away from Christianity? No one is going to convert because you constantly condescended to them.

@OggggO I have brought far more people to Christianity than you can even imagine. If you don't like my approach stop reading my posts.

@hippyjoe1955 The problem is that no one can force themselves to believe something through an act of will. If the Bible makes sense to you, fantastic, but your free will has [b]nothing[/b] to do with that. If you disagree, please demonstrate by sincerely believing in something you know to be false, like the Church of Scientology, for the next five minutes.

@OggggO I hate to say this, but I think Joe [i]wants[/i] to drive people away from Christianity. His arrogant, sanctimonious "religion" is how he convinces himself that he's better than everyone else. He's the textbook definition of a Pharisee.

@hippyjoe1955 Maybe you have, maybe you haven’t. Either way, it still doesn’t make your behavior right.

And do I need to remind you that [i]you[/i] are commenting on [i]my[/i] post?

@OggggO Who are you to judge Another's servant?

@hippyjoe1955 Luke 17:3

@OggggO Matthew 7:5

@hippyjoe1955 So, you’re just going to copycat now?

@OggggO I don't answer to you. I have no idea where you think you get off criticizing what you do not understand. Not to mention are you even a Christian? I rather doubt it by your responses. The Spirit is goading you toward becoming one so you are kicking against the goads by attacking me.

@hippyjoe1955 I never said you answered to me, but you do answer to God, whose rules you seem to be ignoring. I “get off” criticizing you because you are acting like a belligerent prick. You are showing little if any love for your neighbor. As for my spiritual life, think what you want, but you are way off the mark, and I have nothing to prove.

@OggggO In your opinion which I don't care about. You don't understand Christianity or the spread of Christianity by Christians or even by Jesus Himself. When you become a Christian we can have a talk until then continue to steam. I don't care.

@hippyjoe1955 Typical.

"Christianity is true because it's the world's most popular religion, but everyone except me is an apostate who is doing it wrong"

You're not any kind of Christian that Jesus would recognize; you just think you are.

@LeopoldBloom If you think I am going to take advice from you - you are very much mistaken. As Jesus said you don't pick figs from a thorn bush and you are very much a thorn bush. Let me ask you a question: When is the last time you agreed with anything a Christian does?

@hippyjoe1955 Let me know when you remember what the Bible says about kindness and judgement.

@OggggO You are the one doing the judging. Who is the accuser of the brethren? You seem to be on his side.

@hippyjoe1955 By telling you to stop acting like a jerk?

@OggggO By calling me a jerk. Who is the accuser of the brethren? You it would seem are on his side.