Is christian morality superior to secular morality? Why? [Spirituality & Religion]

@GodSpeed63 So here's a man telling me that the word of his god is solid truth, and that he doesn't know truth from a lie.

@newjaninev2 [quote]So here's a man telling me that the word of his god is solid truth, and that he doesn't know truth from a lie.[/quote]

Without the Spirit of God, I wouldn't know truth from a lie.

@GodSpeed63 That's merely a circularity

@newjaninev2 [quote]That's merely a circularity[/quote]

Yet, it's still the truth.

@GodSpeed63 Can you tell me the difference between Christian and Buddhist morality? How about Australian first nations morality?

All have similarities without any contact with each other.

@Bushranger [quote]All have similarities without any contact with each other.[/quote]

Yes, and all come from the same God, Yahweh, but Buddhists and Australian first nations don't know Him as God. That's the difference.

@GodSpeed63 [quote]it's still the truth[/quote]

In what way is that even slightly coherent? Please address the problem here... your argument is that you can't tell the truth from a lie and yet you [i]can[/i] tell the truth from a lie.

@GodSpeed63 I'm sure that a culture that is at least 50,000 years old was influenced by your God, considering that you believe the universe is only 6,000 years old. It was good of him to at least use a positive image of a snake in their mythology, though.

@Bushranger [quote]I'm sure that a culture that is at least 50,000 years old was influenced by your God, [/quote]

How do you know they're that old?

@GodSpeed63

[quote]Christian morality is based on the Word of God which is solid truth[/quote]

You can certainly make that claim but how does that make it morally superior?

After all, christian morality allows for owning people as property and denying rights to homosexuals. That is not good for human well being.
Secular morality is against those kinds of things.

Seems then, that secular morality has the advantage.

@Pikachu The slave/master relationship, as described in the Bible, is really not much different than you having a contract to work for your employer for 7 years and your employer provides you with a room and food. Instead of becoming a slave, a person could have chosen to try to support themselves in society, but they decided that becoming a slave was a better option for themselves.

@ms20182878


That appears to be a common misconception.
While Hebrews could experience what amounted to indentured servitude, foreign slaves could get it much worse.
As i described earlier, such slaves could be inherited as property, children could be born into slavery and you could beat your slave within an inch of his life provided he didn't die with a day or two because he is your property.

There are laws to protect workers. Those laws don't include how much you can beat a worker.

@GodSpeed63 We know that people have been living in Australia for at least 50,000 years because of that thing you are so scared of, science.

The idea that the earth is only 6,000 years old was only arrived at in the 17th century and was the work of a human.

@Bushranger [quote]We know that people have been living in Australia for at least 50,000 years because of that thing you are so scared of, science. [/quote]

You didn't tell me how you know.

@GodSpeed63

Not speaking for him, but would you accept faith as an answer since you accept it for your claims?

@Pikachu [quote]Not speaking for him, but would you accept faith as an answer since you accept it for your claims?[/quote]

I could but it still wouldn't be the truth. If your going to have faith, have it in the one true God and not in something that's a lie.

@GodSpeed63

jehova god is a lie though. That's true. You can say otherwise but that won't make it true.

Oh snap! Unassailable faith claim! lol

@GodSpeed63 Oh, so unless I've actually done the research myself, or was there when they first set foot in Australia, then I can't truly know that they have been here for at least 50,000 years. Is that your point?

@Bushranger [quote]Oh, so unless I've actually done the research myself, or was there when they first set foot in Australia, then I can't truly know that they have been here for at least 50,000 years. Is that your point?[/quote]

That would've helped, yes.

@GodSpeed63 I hope that's not all you've got. Because I could say exactly the same thing about your Bible. While you'll say that God was there, so you can believe it, I'll say that because the research has been done, then I can believe the 50,000 year figure.

@Bushranger [quote]I hope that's not all you've got.[/quote]

What'd you expect? I answered your question. Maybe I didn't myself clear. It would've helped your case in that you did do all that research yourself, and was there when they first set foot in Australia, then you can truly know that they have been here for at least 50,000 years. Since you didn't, It can only mean one thing, your wrong about the age of this earth.

@GodSpeed63 I think you meant that because I didn't do that research myself, then I don't really know that what I've said is true.

If that is the case, then it's obvious that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.

@Bushranger [quote]I think you meant that because I didn't do that research myself, then I don't really know that what I've said is true. [/quote]

You got that right.

[quote]If that is the case, then it's obvious that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.[/quote]

I know exactly what I'm talking about.

@GodSpeed63 So you don't believe in any research at all, unless it supports your religious beliefs. You are even more narrow minded than I thought. It's a good thing for you that the world couldn't care less about you, otherwise none of the physical laws would be applicable to you because you didn't do the research yourself.