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Christians: do you believe that the WHOLE bible is the inspired word of god? [Spirituality & Religion]

If so, how do you reconcile the many immoral things in the bible like the owning of slaves, the inequality of women and the murder of homosexuals?

Now, this is a bit of a gotcha question but i am still genuinely interested in how the faithful reconcile these immoral things with the idea that god is unfailingly moral and just or that the bible is the ultimate source for morality.
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gregloa · 61-69, M
Yes of course I believe the whole Bible is the inspired Word of God. How did the first churches get the Bible? Divine intervention of course. Guided by the Holy Spirit and Jesus himself these are the authors of the Bible.
The Bible was written over 1500 years.
Ancient scribes for centuries painstakingly inspired by the Holy Spirit made copies of the Bible by hand and it was distributed by hand throughout the land to the many churches. An impossible task for any man that doesn’t believe in much less fear God. These copies remain virtually unchanged to this day as the inspired Word of God we have today. The Bible.
Anything immoral in the Bible is carried out by man, not God. God is just. Don’t misinterpret the meaning of just. God hates sin. Sin must be punished for God to be just. Did he not punish Israel when they sined against him? Proof was provided time after time and they still refused to believe. Even if proof is provided to you would you believe they didn’t? Why would you? What kind of proof do you require? Are you so arrogant that you demand proof from God who created you. They were slaves in Egypt for some 400 years. That’s longer than the United States has existed. Woman was created for man, not that he should mistreat her but nevertheless he will rule over her as explained in his word. Where the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah not destroyed by God because of homosexuality? Who is going to argue with Jesus on the day of judgement that homosexuality isn’t sin and what will happen to them? Those who fear God know. And even those who don’t fear God are without excuse as it has been written in every mans heart by God himself as this is clearly explained in his Devine Word. The wages of sin is death. Blood was shed for all sin by sacrifice. Under the old covenant with unblemished animals and under the new covenant with Jesus. Because God is just. All sin was and will be punished that didn’t or doesn’t have blood shed to cover it. God is indeed just and without sin. He separates himself from sin. We separate ourselves from him by sin. The God of the Old Testament is the same God of the New Testament. He has not changed. Why do you not fear God who can and will send you to hell unless you repent and are born again. Because you don’t believe in him. I don’t buy that for one minute. I know because of his Devine Word that the truth is written in your heart by God himself. Why then because you believe the lies of the devil. Can you not recognize the devil laughing each time you post another misguided attempt to disprove God when you’re actually just helping the devil spread lies. I will be praying that you will come to repentance my brother. Please stop spreading the devils lies. It’s very immoral.
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@gregloa


Blah blah blah.

Either make the argument that (for example) a set of rules about how you should OWN PEOPLE is not an example of god's inspired word condoning slavery or make the argument that this is a morally good thing.
gregloa · 61-69, M
@PhoenixPhail oh really did the wright genesis too. If you listen closely you can hear the devil laughing
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@gregloa [quote]Are you so arrogant that you demand proof from God who created you[/quote]

No... I'm so rational as to demand proof from people who [i]claim[/i] that their god created me
gregloa · 61-69, M
@Pikachu I did. Why didn’t you understand?
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@gregloa [quote]he will rule over her as explained in his word[/quote]

and so we end up with...

@gregloa

No i think what you did was say "god said"

What i want from you is more than that. I want to see you [i]think[/i].
So go ahead and explain how those are morally correct positions.
gregloa · 61-69, M
@newjaninev2 you should also listen closely
@gregloa
Dude. Stop preaching and use your brain.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@gregloa [quote]Because God is just[/quote]

“It’s a horrible idea that there is somebody who owns us, who makes us, who supervises us – waking and sleeping – who knows our thoughts, who can convict us of thought crime – thought crime! Just for what we think! – who can judge us while we sleep for things that might occur to us in our dreams; who can create us sick – as apparently we are – and then order us on pain of eternal torture to be well again. To demand this, to wish this to be true, is to wish to live as an abject slave!”

[i]Christopher Hitchens[/i]
gregloa · 61-69, M
@Pikachu do you not have an ear to hear? Read carefully. I did explain. Now you tell me , how is homosexuality a morally correct position? A Christian woman submits to her husband and is happy. He cares for her and his family and they respect him. It is Holy. If he mistreats her or them he is not a Christian. Why is rape brought up by what’s her name? Wow. Slavery to Israel in Egypt was punishment for sin. Read the story if you want to know why. If you think they didn’t deserve to be punished. That makes God just, not immoral. Man is immoral for sinning against God. The wages for sin is death. God has been very clear about this. He is just. Why do you think he sent his son?
gregloa · 61-69, M
@newjaninev2 you do fear God. As it is written, god has written it in all men’s heart so they are without excuse.
@gregloa

lol you're just preaching, not thinking. I challenged you to [i]think[/i].

[quote]how is homosexuality a morally correct position?[/quote]

In the same way heterosexuality is:
Two consenting adults engaging in physical intimacy.
So thanks for trying to dodge my question but now i'll ask you to show me the same courtesy i showed you and answer the question.
Without saying "because god said" explain why homosexuality is immoral.

[quote] A Christian woman submits to her husband and is happy.[/quote]

Some do. Many don't. Turns out that many women don't think they should submit to you on the basis that you have a penis.
So gain, explain why it is a morally correct position.

AS for slavery, obviously the bible does not only describe the isrealite's enslavement to egyptians.
IT describes how god's chosen people can enslave and own other people as property.
Who you can enslave, how long you can enslave them for, what you can do to them and so on.

Explain how it is morally correct to own another human being as property.

I anticipate your failure to respond to any of these challenges.
@gregloa

[quote]you do fear God[/quote]

No. We don't.

That's just another faith claim. Don't pretend you can validate it.
Thanks.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@gregloa [quote]you do fear God[/quote]

...are there any other mythical beings that you feel I must fear? Unicorns? Faeries? Leprechauns? Dragons?
@Pikachu [quote]don't think they should submit to you on the basis that you have a penis.[/quote]You either have to be a woman or the biggest homo on Earth.
@MarmeeMarch

...sorry, not following the logic of that statement.
Try again.
@Pikachu The reason I said that my small yellow freak - was that you sound so sympathetic to women that was not even needed - it just seems that you are a very sensitive person ( in a girlish way)
@Pikachu I ll delete it or you can if you are going to cry
@MarmeeMarch

Don't delete it and definitely don't use me as an excuse to do so lol.
I want people to see that.

Sorry, still not getting your argument though.
If i don't think it's right that women submit to men because men are men...then my views must be dependent upon my gender or my sexuality?

Try again 😁
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@gregloa This is some silly shit lmao.
@Pikachu YYYYYYYYYEaa ........ if you are a chick then fine - if you are a man, please retrieve your balls on your way out.
@newjaninev2 Totally retarded
QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M
@MarmeeMarch Also some silly shit.
@MarmeeMarch

lol YYYYYYYYYEaa......you have no argument or justification. You were just being combative and talking out your ass.

Thought so 😁😁😁