Hey Creationists. Do you think that creationism should be taught in schools as science? [Spirituality & Religion]

@hippyjoe1955

Absolutely

@Pikachu How?

@hippyjoe1955

Easy.

If it could be shown that genetic traits are not inheritable
If we found a true chimeric animal (like a half man half horse)
If it could be shown that environmental conditions did not influence an organisms development on the population level.

@Pikachu You do realize none of those things prove evolution don't you?

@hippyjoe1955

If you say so.
But they WOULD prove that evolution could not have occurred.
Was that not what you were asking?

@Pikachu I don't believe evolution answers anything so I don't bother trying to prove it did or didn't happen. I don't believe in magic mud.

@hippyjoe1955

Ok...
You asked me if i thought evolution could be falsified and how. I answered.
Why are you still here?

I mean, you DO believe in magic mud. God used magic to turn mud into a human, right?
How is that NOT magic mud?😁

@hippyjoe1955 I've seen you use that term a few times, but only in passing, so I never get the context. What is this magic mud?

@Moosepantspatty What is life? Is it more than just a bunch of amino acids bumping into each other?

@hippyjoe1955 I'm sorry, I'm not understanding. Are you saying that people are magic mud?

@Moosepantspatty [quote]What is this magic mud?[/quote]

In at least one of the creationist books some magical entity is supposed to have created humans by breathing life into dust.. or dirt.. or mud... or whatever (instant human, just add water!?). The [i]same[/i] book has a different version whereby the same magical entity creates humans by talking about them, or some such thing.

It seems that hippyjoe subscribes to the magic mud version

@Moosepantspatty No evolutionists think we are magic mud. Nothing greater than mud caused us to be according to evolutionists. If life is more than amino acids (capable of thought and feeling and purpose then the mud must be magical since life (the whole) is greater than the parts (the material life inhabits).

@hippyjoe1955 so its science that is calling people magic mud?

And magic mud is the composition of human beings from evolution?

@hippyjoe1955

[quote]No evolutionists think we are magic mud. [/quote]

But so do you, joe. And you won't even be able to dispute me here.

You believe that your god used magic to turn mud into a human.
Magic mud.
Prove me wrong😁

@hippyjoe1955 [quote]How?[/quote]

J.B.S. Haldane is famously quoted as having said (well, growled) "fossil rabbits in the Precambrian" when asked the same question.

It's worth emphasising that, despite the hundreds of millions of fossils collected and sorted, [i]there's not a single rabbit in the pre-Cambrian[/i]!.

And it's worth noting that the moment hippyjoe was answered, he instantly tried to switch from [i]falsifying[/i] evolution to [i]proving[/i] evolution, even though he is well aware (surely [i]must[/i] be well aware!) that science never tries to prove anything.

@hippyjoe1955 [quote]What is life?[/quote]

I'll explain it to you again... life is a self-sustaining chemical system capable of Darwinian evolution.

Happy to discuss that with you, if you'll stay around long enough [i]this[/i] time to do so

@newjaninev2

So many ways to disprove evolution. It's just that none of them have arisen.

And don;t be so hard on joe. At least he just threw out a red herring instead of calling me clueless and running away😆

@newjaninev2 So because you can't find a fossil it doesn't exist? Wow. I guess you never looked at any of the fossils have you.

@hippyjoe1955

[quote]So because you can't find a fossil it doesn't exist?[/quote]

No. You've missed the point (shocker)

This is yet ANOTHER response to what you thought was your gotcha question of "how could evolution be disproved".

If you found a rabbit i a pre-cambrian fossil bed which could not be shown to be anomalous then evolution could not be true.

Try to keep up😁😁😁

@Pikachu Actually no I didn't miss the point at all. You just aren't sharp enough to see that not finding my car keys doesn't prove that my car keys don't exist. There is far more unknown in our past than there is known.

@hippyjoe1955 and you've now missed the point yet again! Hilarious!

@newjaninev2 Not at all. You are truly clueless if you think I missed it. So how did life begin?

@hippyjoe1955 The point is that there are many ways in which the Theory of Evolution is falsifiable [i]in principle[/i]. The fact that the Theory has not yet been falsified speaks to its robustness and veracity.

@hippyjoe1955

lol aww buddy...

You're just repeating your misunderstanding.
That was an example of what could disprove evolution, not a declaration that no such thing exists.

Do...do you follow me? I don't know if i can dumb it down any more than that...

@newjaninev2 Only in your mind has it not been falsified. It was falsified in my mind many years ago.