In a world where we met many alien species and they turned out to be as human as they are in Star Trek... [Spirituality & Religion]
...would you believe in a god?
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Deadcutie · 18-21, F
First provide the aliens and then I would openly reject god, but since no aliens have been spotted, I’m pretty safe in my beliefs..
@Deadcutie
[quote]if god says they are birds then to hell what scientists classify them..[/quote]
um...so that would be what we call an unfalisfiable position.
Nothing i can really say if you decide that evidence which contradicts your biblr is inadmissible...
[quote]You won’t even read my sources, so how dare you exepect me to read yours..
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Your mistake is in presuming that since i did not understand the point you were making that i did not read the passage. Obviously that was the first thing i did because i try to engage honestly with anyone who comes my way.
I'm not sure you can say the same.
[quote]if god says they are birds then to hell what scientists classify them..[/quote]
um...so that would be what we call an unfalisfiable position.
Nothing i can really say if you decide that evidence which contradicts your biblr is inadmissible...
[quote]You won’t even read my sources, so how dare you exepect me to read yours..
[/quote]
Your mistake is in presuming that since i did not understand the point you were making that i did not read the passage. Obviously that was the first thing i did because i try to engage honestly with anyone who comes my way.
I'm not sure you can say the same.
@Deadcutie
In my experience it's only people who can't make their argument that say "it should be obvious" or in some similar way shift the burden of the argument to another person.
See, people who understand their own argument and feel confident in explaining it...explain it😉
Like i said, excuses don't fly with me.
You've made your choice. If you change your mind, get back to me.
In my experience it's only people who can't make their argument that say "it should be obvious" or in some similar way shift the burden of the argument to another person.
See, people who understand their own argument and feel confident in explaining it...explain it😉
Like i said, excuses don't fly with me.
You've made your choice. If you change your mind, get back to me.
Deadcutie · 18-21, F
@OggggO it does.. being you took 10 minutes to reply I have to assume you didn’t actually study any of the words but just skimmed over them... this is why your ignorance will keep you from understanding.. but I doubt that’s what you are really after...
just to drop a hint, several key words are actually rendered to mean as the universe (creation) being in a state of ruin. This can further be compared to gen 1:2 in which the word “was” is better translated as became.
It should read
1:1 god created the heavens and the earth
1:2 and the earth(along with the physical universe) became void and wasted. They weren’t made corrupted, they became corrupted and in a state of disrepair..
Further scripture reveals Satan's rebellion and attempt to dethrone God caused the destruction of our current physical universe
There are other scriptures that back these scriptures up throughout both the old and New Testaments
Anyways, it’s no skin off my back whether you believe or not. I answered the question with my opinion and you can piss off if you don’t like the answer
just to drop a hint, several key words are actually rendered to mean as the universe (creation) being in a state of ruin. This can further be compared to gen 1:2 in which the word “was” is better translated as became.
It should read
1:1 god created the heavens and the earth
1:2 and the earth(along with the physical universe) became void and wasted. They weren’t made corrupted, they became corrupted and in a state of disrepair..
Further scripture reveals Satan's rebellion and attempt to dethrone God caused the destruction of our current physical universe
There are other scriptures that back these scriptures up throughout both the old and New Testaments
Anyways, it’s no skin off my back whether you believe or not. I answered the question with my opinion and you can piss off if you don’t like the answer
OggggO · 36-40, M
@Deadcutie [quote]19The creation waits in eager expectation for the revelation of the sons of God. 20For the creation was subjected to futility, not by its own will, but because of the One who subjected it, in hope 21that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God.
22We know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until the present time. 23Not only that, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. 24For in this hope we were saved; but hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what he can already see? 25But if we hope for what we do not yet see, we wait for it patiently.[/quote]
No, that does not say that there's no other life in the universe. It says we were destined to be destroyed by sin until Christ redeemed us.
Further, not a single translation of Gen 1:2 suggests "became" is a better choice of word than "was":
https://biblehub.com/genesis/1-2.htm
22We know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until the present time. 23Not only that, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. 24For in this hope we were saved; but hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what he can already see? 25But if we hope for what we do not yet see, we wait for it patiently.[/quote]
No, that does not say that there's no other life in the universe. It says we were destined to be destroyed by sin until Christ redeemed us.
Further, not a single translation of Gen 1:2 suggests "became" is a better choice of word than "was":
https://biblehub.com/genesis/1-2.htm