This is the truth about getting into heaven. GOD helps those who help others so do with it what you will. [Spirituality & Religion]

Lol@SW-User

@SW-User if you REALLY did not fart, you might just scrape in......Lol

@MarkA [c=#7700B2]yeah I know its pointless but all this lady seems to do is post stuff hating on people and judging them and using religion as a tool to do it. there always seems to be someone like this come on here every so often and say the same old stuff over and over again and eventually leaves or gives up due to no one caring.. so will just see how long it takes her[/c]

@PlumBerries im not looking down on u or anyone. It is very hard to get into heaven an i want people to understand that. I will try to live for God and hope to get into heaven. I do believe il go to heaven contrary to what anyone says. If u dont believe in God i dont know what to say that will change ur mind.

[c=#7700B2]sure your not. nothing you can say will change my mind. I go off of facts not others beliefs.. [/c]

@lightshinesthroughdarkness [quote]God wants to protect women[/quote]

The sort of protection that one gets from the Mafia?

@lightshinesthroughdarkness Would you trust a rapist to babysit your kid if your kid was covered from head to toe, she/he would be automatically protected from that rapists "urge" right? So that last victim the rapist had probably was uncovered and urged the man/woman on right?

Wrong.

Not saying the Hijab is wrong because Christian societies they actually had it too and at one point even made them mandatory or punished by law but in the Middle East they have the Hijab and Muslim women still get raped and they have that exact same view. In fact a few Muslim politicians said:

[quote]"American women get raped because they allow us to have our heads uncovered while Muslim women are better treated"[/quote]

Similarly they said that about women who drive in America also.

These are exact quotes but I'm too lazy to look up who said it.

However that is a total lie because they sentence rape victims to death in some parts (like in India also,) and Muslim women are raped in the street sometimes. Their covered from head to toe, so it has nothing to do with being covered.

Rape is 100% about power and humiliation.

@lightshinesthroughdarkness Historically head wrapping has more to do with submission towards God as a symbol not some perverted act of rape because "men can't control themselves." Women rape too.

@SW-User i want to work out my salvation with fear and trembling and think others should aswell

@lightshinesthroughdarkness Yes, we should work out our salvation with fear and trembling, I agree. But let the joy of the Lord be our strength.

@MarkA I suppose you may be right about that - missing you I mean. Perhaps it's more likely that you will remember this encounter between ourselves.

My spot in Heaven is guaranteed! Yours could be as well Mark.
You can start on that path right now! Say Hi to God on your own. Then listen, be still and listen.

Guaranteed????????? Your spot is GUARANTEED??????
I underestimated your arrogance. You are WAY BEYOND ARROGANT. GO AWAY, YOURE SCARING ME NOW

@MarkA Here's one of those camp fire stories for you Mark.

The Conversion of the Jailer

25About midnight, Paul and Silas were praying and singing hymns to God, and the other prisoners were listening to them. 26Suddenly a strong earthquake shook the foundations of the prison. At once all the doors flew open, and everyone’s chains came loose.

27When the jailer woke up and saw the prison doors open, he drew his sword and was about to kill himself, presuming that the prisoners had escaped. 28But Paul called out in a loud voice, “Do not harm yourself! We are all here!”

29Calling for lights, the jailer rushed in and fell trembling before Paul and Silas. 30Then he brought them out and asked, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”

31They replied, “Believe in the Lord Jesus and you will be saved, you and your household.” 32Then Paul and Silas spoke the word of the Lord to him and to everyone in his house. 33At that hour of the night, the jailer took them and washed their wounds. And without delay, he and all his household were baptized. 34Then he brought them into his home and set a meal before them. So he and all his household rejoiced that they had come to believe in God.

Believe and YOU will be saved too!

@MarkA
And in this matter what I am saying is that it makes no sense to blame God for things that man has done. I discuss matters like these with non-believers all the time. Sometimes they realize that their anger towards religion or believers had been misplaced - sometimes from simple stuff like that!

Sometimes the walls of disbelief are pretty thick and daunting. I think it would be pretty cool to help a few find their way home is all.

Gotta go soon - so don't look for replies at least til next week.

No probs. It has been interesting, informative and enjoyable. And a little combative at times, obviously. I do respect an individual's right to their views. Unfortunately, in my experience, that same courtesy has not always been returned when religion has been discussed, but I wish you well for the future, sincerely.

@MarkA Also, no problem.
I'll be delighted to discuss the topic anytime.

@SW-User hard to blastheme against something you don't recognise or believe in.....

@MarkA Don't worry Mark, you are doing a great job at blaspheming! Your place in hell is secure!

I should mention though that you can change that reservation! I just wouldn't wait too long. You never know when your turkey timer will pop - and then, it's too late.

What's so special about Heaven? Sitting around on clouds praising some entity who allows such vile things to happen on earth, for the rest of eternity. Wow. Great. Sounds such a hoot. I'll leave that to you saddos. Enjoy.
Sorry, I would only sing praises to something/somebody who deserves it.
BTW, who put God in charge? Same people who put all the other dictators in charge, no doubt. I sure didn't get a say in it. Did you?

@Emosaur At the expense of perhaps a valid argument you might be making?

@Emosaur there comes a time when, no matter how polite and respectful you feel you should be, that you just want to scream and swear at someone out of sheer frustration at their pathetic and deluded argument, based PURELY on their own beliefs (or perhaps their religious leader's, more likely - these people are sheep, after all, as free thinking within a religious context is obvs not encouraged) without the tiniest shred of real evidence to back it up.
I'm juuuust about to reach that stage as, I suspect, are you.....