Kent Hovind Wins With The Truth [Spirituality & Religion]
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GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu So? It still doesn't mean the truth is not in him.
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GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@SeymourWeiner [quote]That is EXACTLY what it means.[/quote]
Not at all. God may have humbled him but Kent still speaks the truth.
Not at all. God may have humbled him but Kent still speaks the truth.
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GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@SeymourWeiner [quote]And all the Christians who denounced him as a fraud and a boob are liars. [/quote]
Who has denounced him, religious people or true believers?
Who has denounced him, religious people or true believers?
@GodSpeed63
[quote]So? It still doesn't mean the truth is not in him.[/quote]
Sure. But let me clarify around your weaseling there.
This does not PROVE that the *ahem* "truth is not in him" but it DOES show that his reasoning if flawed and his arguments factually incorrect in many areas.
It undermines the credibility of his position.
See, i've watched a lot of Hovind and Hovind is a very good speaker. He's entertaining, has a lot of good one liners and talking points that he like to trot out.
But what we see here with and ACTUAL doctor who does not let him get away with his standard gish gallop, is that he's understanding of the subjects is largely superficial and his arguments fundamentally flawed.
So no, my dude, it does not PROVE that he's a lying sack of unaccredited, fraudulent shit, but it should certainly give any thinking person cause to doubt what he says.
Are you a thinking person?
[quote]So? It still doesn't mean the truth is not in him.[/quote]
Sure. But let me clarify around your weaseling there.
This does not PROVE that the *ahem* "truth is not in him" but it DOES show that his reasoning if flawed and his arguments factually incorrect in many areas.
It undermines the credibility of his position.
See, i've watched a lot of Hovind and Hovind is a very good speaker. He's entertaining, has a lot of good one liners and talking points that he like to trot out.
But what we see here with and ACTUAL doctor who does not let him get away with his standard gish gallop, is that he's understanding of the subjects is largely superficial and his arguments fundamentally flawed.
So no, my dude, it does not PROVE that he's a lying sack of unaccredited, fraudulent shit, but it should certainly give any thinking person cause to doubt what he says.
Are you a thinking person?
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu [quote]It undermines the credibility of his position.[/quote]
How so? You haven't one shred of evidence that he is incorrect. His method may be a little too hyper for your taste but He's still telling the truth about science pointing to a Creator.
How so? You haven't one shred of evidence that he is incorrect. His method may be a little too hyper for your taste but He's still telling the truth about science pointing to a Creator.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu [quote]lol 😏👍
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In other words, you don't know. In the future, my friend, if your going to make a statement, make sure you know what your talking about first, or, at least have something substantial to show for it.
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In other words, you don't know. In the future, my friend, if your going to make a statement, make sure you know what your talking about first, or, at least have something substantial to show for it.
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
@GodSpeed63 [quote]if your going to make a statement, make sure you know what your talking about first, or, at least have something substantial to show for it.[/quote]
You should try taking your own advice.
You should try taking your own advice.
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@suzie1960 [quote]You should try taking your own advice.[/quote]
Suzie Q, Merry Christmas, How have you been?
Suzie Q, Merry Christmas, How have you been?
@GodSpeed63
[quote]You haven't one shred of evidence that he is incorrect. [/quote]
Did you watch ANY of his debate with dr scott?
Of course you didn't because that might force you to confront the idea that you're wrong.
Let me help you focus here, guy.
I posted a debate wherein "dr dino" gets his ass handed to him particularly where he makes claims about objective scientific fact.
Your response to this (Without actually having watched it) was that it doesn't mean he's wrong.
My point being that on the back of this debate, he loses an awful lot of credibility. All caught up?
Good.
[quote]In other words, you don't know. In the future, my friend, if your going to make a statement, make sure you know what your talking about first, or, at least have something substantial to show for it.[/quote]
😆 lol what are you even talking about here?
No, i don't know who was denouncing them or how they identified spiritually.
THAT was not the point.
I was simply calling out the logical fallacy you attempted to employ.
I know it's your style to play dumb but this is getting a little tedious...
[quote]You haven't one shred of evidence that he is incorrect. [/quote]
Did you watch ANY of his debate with dr scott?
Of course you didn't because that might force you to confront the idea that you're wrong.
Let me help you focus here, guy.
I posted a debate wherein "dr dino" gets his ass handed to him particularly where he makes claims about objective scientific fact.
Your response to this (Without actually having watched it) was that it doesn't mean he's wrong.
My point being that on the back of this debate, he loses an awful lot of credibility. All caught up?
Good.
[quote]In other words, you don't know. In the future, my friend, if your going to make a statement, make sure you know what your talking about first, or, at least have something substantial to show for it.[/quote]
😆 lol what are you even talking about here?
No, i don't know who was denouncing them or how they identified spiritually.
THAT was not the point.
I was simply calling out the logical fallacy you attempted to employ.
I know it's your style to play dumb but this is getting a little tedious...
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@GodSpeed63
No, no, no. You mistake me.
I'm telling you that what you said is not a pertinent response to the post i made to you.
You attempted to employ a logical fallacy.
I called you on it.
I was not making a statement regarding your argument about who criticizes hovind.
You follow?
I'm calling out YOUR mistake in logic, not trying to prove what people
believe who deride hovind or their spiritual identity.
Are you with me now? Do you understand?
No, no, no. You mistake me.
I'm telling you that what you said is not a pertinent response to the post i made to you.
You attempted to employ a logical fallacy.
I called you on it.
I was not making a statement regarding your argument about who criticizes hovind.
You follow?
I'm calling out YOUR mistake in logic, not trying to prove what people
believe who deride hovind or their spiritual identity.
Are you with me now? Do you understand?
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu [quote]I'm calling out YOUR mistake in logic[/quote]
You haven't a clue of what logic is, true logic that is.
You haven't a clue of what logic is, true logic that is.
@GodSpeed63
[quote]You haven't a clue of what logic is, true logic that is.[/quote]
In the future, my friend, if your going to make a statement, make sure you know what your talking about first, or, at least have something substantial to show for it. 😁
lol but seriously. You get that this is not just me telling you that you're using bad logic, right? The flawed argument you attempted to use has it's own NAME for god sakes.
Take your lumps, guy😉👍
[quote]You haven't a clue of what logic is, true logic that is.[/quote]
In the future, my friend, if your going to make a statement, make sure you know what your talking about first, or, at least have something substantial to show for it. 😁
lol but seriously. You get that this is not just me telling you that you're using bad logic, right? The flawed argument you attempted to use has it's own NAME for god sakes.
Take your lumps, guy😉👍
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu [quote]In the future, my friend, if your going to make a statement, make sure you know what your talking about first, or, at least have something substantial to show for it[/quote]
I already do. Remember, solid truth will always have a solid backing but the lie will never be backed up by its liars. That's the truth. I've always backed up what I said. You have yet to do the same.
I already do. Remember, solid truth will always have a solid backing but the lie will never be backed up by its liars. That's the truth. I've always backed up what I said. You have yet to do the same.
@GodSpeed63
[quote] I've always backed up what I said.[/quote]
lol
Ok. So go ahead and BACK UP your statement that i don't know what logic is.
Show where MY logic is flawed or show where my criticism of YOUR logic is flawed.
Go on, smart guy. Show me what you got!😆
No games, straight answers. THAT is your boast so make good on it.
Deflection incoming in 3....2....
[quote] I've always backed up what I said.[/quote]
lol
Ok. So go ahead and BACK UP your statement that i don't know what logic is.
Show where MY logic is flawed or show where my criticism of YOUR logic is flawed.
Go on, smart guy. Show me what you got!😆
No games, straight answers. THAT is your boast so make good on it.
Deflection incoming in 3....2....
@suzie1960
But you don't understand. He definitely CAN back it up. It's just that he doesn't have to.
Like, he can certainly explain in great detail how the eye was created (if he couldn't then he would have to admit that it is an untenable position) but since you won't tell him why you hate god, he doesn't have to🤣😂😭
amiright @GodSpeed63 ?😁👍
But you don't understand. He definitely CAN back it up. It's just that he doesn't have to.
Like, he can certainly explain in great detail how the eye was created (if he couldn't then he would have to admit that it is an untenable position) but since you won't tell him why you hate god, he doesn't have to🤣😂😭
amiright @GodSpeed63 ?😁👍
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@GodSpeed63
lol which part of that statement would you like to contest?
Answer me
1) you always back up what you say (which you don't because you've [i]conveniently[/i] elected to answer this question rather than address your claim that i don't understand logic).
2) you can explain in great detail the creation of the eye
3) you don't have to make good on that boast because another user didn't answer a question the way you wanted her to
I meant all of that. So go on, which part is wrong?
Remember, champ: the [i]second[/i] you admit to any of those things i'm going to force you to back them up and i know that frustrates you more than anything else.
Let's have some fun, shall we?😏
lol which part of that statement would you like to contest?
Answer me
1) you always back up what you say (which you don't because you've [i]conveniently[/i] elected to answer this question rather than address your claim that i don't understand logic).
2) you can explain in great detail the creation of the eye
3) you don't have to make good on that boast because another user didn't answer a question the way you wanted her to
I meant all of that. So go on, which part is wrong?
Remember, champ: the [i]second[/i] you admit to any of those things i'm going to force you to back them up and i know that frustrates you more than anything else.
Let's have some fun, shall we?😏
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu [quote]which part of that statement would you like to contest?[/quote]
The part that was in your heart when you said it.
The part that was in your heart when you said it.
@GodSpeed63
[quote]The part that was in your heart when you said it.[/quote]
Oh, the part where i find you hilariously desperate to sound wise and spiritual when you're actually more concerned with winning internet arguments?
lol your deflections are as pointless as they are transparent.
You CAN'T back up your points. You never do.
But prove me wrong right now.
Share with the class the reasons why you declare that i do not understand logic.
Come on, coward.
I know you were formulating your next facile deflection before you even finished reading this post but just man up for like A second and answer a straight question with a straight answer.
Show just a SHRED of intellectual honesty.
Can you do that for me, kiddo?
[quote]The part that was in your heart when you said it.[/quote]
Oh, the part where i find you hilariously desperate to sound wise and spiritual when you're actually more concerned with winning internet arguments?
lol your deflections are as pointless as they are transparent.
You CAN'T back up your points. You never do.
But prove me wrong right now.
Share with the class the reasons why you declare that i do not understand logic.
Come on, coward.
I know you were formulating your next facile deflection before you even finished reading this post but just man up for like A second and answer a straight question with a straight answer.
Show just a SHRED of intellectual honesty.
Can you do that for me, kiddo?
GodSpeed63 · 61-69, M
@Pikachu [quote]Oh, the part where i find you hilariously desperate to sound wise and spiritual when you're actually more concerned with winning internet arguments?[/quote]
Those are your words.
Those are your words.
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