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xRedx · M
Could you please explain the lack of genetic diversity in our species? If you don't have a concrete answer, which you never do, please don't respond.
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xRedx · M
@Pikachu exactly, you don't have a answer. Also, there's no need to bring politics into this discussion. I find it funny how much you preach something yet actually have no knowledge on. You probably just cut and paste from a website and preach evolution. It's kinda sad really. If you know about evolution like you say you do, you'd also know the many examples of counter evolution.
@xRedx
Well i don't have an answer because i don't know what you're talking about or why it should be considered a problem for evolutipn,
I don't think i brought politics into this lol. But for the moment i'm going to ignore the fact that your post was entirely a criticism of me and my position and competently lacking in any substance.
So please, elaborate on your criticism.
What is this lack of genetic diversity and why should it be considered a contraindication of evolution?
Or are you just regurgitating a talking point with no real understanding of the subject? (that's a hook😉)
Well i don't have an answer because i don't know what you're talking about or why it should be considered a problem for evolutipn,
I don't think i brought politics into this lol. But for the moment i'm going to ignore the fact that your post was entirely a criticism of me and my position and competently lacking in any substance.
So please, elaborate on your criticism.
What is this lack of genetic diversity and why should it be considered a contraindication of evolution?
Or are you just regurgitating a talking point with no real understanding of the subject? (that's a hook😉)
@xRedx
Woops. "it's common sense" tends to be used as an excuse not to have to support one's assertions. I assume this was not your intention.
[quote]. A lack of genetic diversity means there is no evolution taking place.[/quote]
Why does it mean that? Can you explain that? You immediately brought up the idea of a "concrete answer".
I'm calling you out to provide that.
Please tell me why you consider a low genetic diversity to contraindicate evolution.
Be specific, if you can.
Woops. "it's common sense" tends to be used as an excuse not to have to support one's assertions. I assume this was not your intention.
[quote]. A lack of genetic diversity means there is no evolution taking place.[/quote]
Why does it mean that? Can you explain that? You immediately brought up the idea of a "concrete answer".
I'm calling you out to provide that.
Please tell me why you consider a low genetic diversity to contraindicate evolution.
Be specific, if you can.
@xRedx
Um...no there is a lot of good evidence showing that evolution has taken place.
That was not a concrete answer, that was a deflection to a different subject. That is a debate regarding the evidence for evolution, not a debate about why low genetic diversity should contraindicate evolution.
I'd be happy to get into the evidence that evolution has taken place AFTER you make the point that you so confidently attempted to make when you first responded to me.
This is a simple, direct question. I expect a simple, direct answer:
Why does low genetic diversity mean that evolution has not taken place?
Um...no there is a lot of good evidence showing that evolution has taken place.
That was not a concrete answer, that was a deflection to a different subject. That is a debate regarding the evidence for evolution, not a debate about why low genetic diversity should contraindicate evolution.
I'd be happy to get into the evidence that evolution has taken place AFTER you make the point that you so confidently attempted to make when you first responded to me.
This is a simple, direct question. I expect a simple, direct answer:
Why does low genetic diversity mean that evolution has not taken place?
xRedx · M
@Pikachu [quote]I'd be happy to get into the evidence that evolution has taken place[/quote]
You mean copy and paste from a website, right? No thank you, unlike you, I acknowledge countless perspectives. You can never give a solid answer, always dancing around the subject asking question after question. I had already answered the question.
You mean copy and paste from a website, right? No thank you, unlike you, I acknowledge countless perspectives. You can never give a solid answer, always dancing around the subject asking question after question. I had already answered the question.
@xRedx
So...you're refusing to engage on a debate on the basis of criticizing me for failings which you have assigned to me but which i have not yet committed...
lol [i]fascinating
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That strikes me as more than little dishonest and fairly cowardly.
[quote]always dancing around the subject [/quote]
You certainly are. For instance, i asked you a specific question and in response you made vague, criticisms about what you assumed would be my response lol
[quote]I had already answered the question.[/quote]
Nope. Wrong.
What you did was make an assertion that you were correct and then appeal to common sense.
What you failed to do, what you continue to [i]fail[/i] to do is actually give an answer.
I think you've shown your character to us here but i'm going to offer you one more chance to have an honest intellectual interaction with me here.
This is a simple, direct question. I expect a simple, direct answer:
Why does low genetic diversity mean that evolution has not taken place?
So...you're refusing to engage on a debate on the basis of criticizing me for failings which you have assigned to me but which i have not yet committed...
lol [i]fascinating
[/i]
That strikes me as more than little dishonest and fairly cowardly.
[quote]always dancing around the subject [/quote]
You certainly are. For instance, i asked you a specific question and in response you made vague, criticisms about what you assumed would be my response lol
[quote]I had already answered the question.[/quote]
Nope. Wrong.
What you did was make an assertion that you were correct and then appeal to common sense.
What you failed to do, what you continue to [i]fail[/i] to do is actually give an answer.
I think you've shown your character to us here but i'm going to offer you one more chance to have an honest intellectual interaction with me here.
This is a simple, direct question. I expect a simple, direct answer:
Why does low genetic diversity mean that evolution has not taken place?
xRedx · M
@Pikachu Oh believe me I've tried having a intellectual interaction with you but you're kinda full of bs. Can you explain to me how evolution is taking place RIGHT NOW? You can't, you don't have the knowledge or ability to. I gave you a answer.
Why does genetic diversity mean that evolution has not taken place?
Genetic diversity indicates evolution in a species. Such as spiders adapting to different environments. There's is a overwhelming amount of evidence of lack of genetic diversity in our race at the moment. This is not a vague answer.
Can you prove to me that evolution is taking place right now? Please give me a answer without asking question, but I know you won't
Why does genetic diversity mean that evolution has not taken place?
Genetic diversity indicates evolution in a species. Such as spiders adapting to different environments. There's is a overwhelming amount of evidence of lack of genetic diversity in our race at the moment. This is not a vague answer.
Can you prove to me that evolution is taking place right now? Please give me a answer without asking question, but I know you won't
Pherick · 41-45, M
@xRedx I am sure @Pikachu will be back to answer this question, but for me, in case you wanted to do some reading, these articles were interesting.
http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20150803-how-do-we-know-evolution-is-real
https://www.popsci.com/humans-are-still-evolving
https://www.businessinsider.com/examples-of-evolution-happening-right-now-2015-2
http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20150803-how-do-we-know-evolution-is-real
https://www.popsci.com/humans-are-still-evolving
https://www.businessinsider.com/examples-of-evolution-happening-right-now-2015-2
@xRedx
[quote] Oh believe me I've tried having a intellectual interaction with you but you're kinda full of bs[quote][/quote][/quote]
Sorry, can't recall ever having talked to you. But i believe you.
[quote]Can you explain to me how evolution is taking place RIGHT NOW?[quote][/quote][/quote]
I guess i don't understand this question. Can i give you an example of evolution that is taking place before out eyes?
Well yes, but i suspect you wouldn't consider the evolution of viruses and bacteria to count.
I can certainly give you evidence that evolution HAS occurred. Are you afraid to engage on that? It seems that you are.
[quote]This is not a vague answer. [quote][/quote][/quote]
It is. And i'm genuinely not trying to be difficult here.
If a population is reduced to creatively few individuals then the resulting progeny will have comparatively little genetic diversity.
Now, you've repeated your assertion that this low diversity contraindicates evolution but you have failed to explain WHY.
For example, cheetahs have a low genetic diversity dude to a population bottleneck.
Can you tell me why this should be considered evidence that evolution has not taken place rather than evidence that the population was at one point drastically reduced?
So here are your choices:
1) You can continue to assume an adversarial position and use an excuse for why you need not be specific or why you're not willing to explore the evidence that evolution has occurred, OR
2) You can explain why you think low genetic diversity indicates a lack of evolution rather than a genetic bottleneck and agree to engage on the evidence pointing to the fact that evolution has occurred.
Your move🙂👍
[quote] Oh believe me I've tried having a intellectual interaction with you but you're kinda full of bs[quote][/quote][/quote]
Sorry, can't recall ever having talked to you. But i believe you.
[quote]Can you explain to me how evolution is taking place RIGHT NOW?[quote][/quote][/quote]
I guess i don't understand this question. Can i give you an example of evolution that is taking place before out eyes?
Well yes, but i suspect you wouldn't consider the evolution of viruses and bacteria to count.
I can certainly give you evidence that evolution HAS occurred. Are you afraid to engage on that? It seems that you are.
[quote]This is not a vague answer. [quote][/quote][/quote]
It is. And i'm genuinely not trying to be difficult here.
If a population is reduced to creatively few individuals then the resulting progeny will have comparatively little genetic diversity.
Now, you've repeated your assertion that this low diversity contraindicates evolution but you have failed to explain WHY.
For example, cheetahs have a low genetic diversity dude to a population bottleneck.
Can you tell me why this should be considered evidence that evolution has not taken place rather than evidence that the population was at one point drastically reduced?
So here are your choices:
1) You can continue to assume an adversarial position and use an excuse for why you need not be specific or why you're not willing to explore the evidence that evolution has occurred, OR
2) You can explain why you think low genetic diversity indicates a lack of evolution rather than a genetic bottleneck and agree to engage on the evidence pointing to the fact that evolution has occurred.
Your move🙂👍
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