Did you know that if we don't live a holy life before God we are litteraly doomed? Does anyone care about holiness? [Spirituality & Religion]

Alot of preachers talk heresy these days, to get money and maybe fame. The story goes like this, God created people and then one of his angels fell. That fallen angel decided to fight against God by making people disobey God(fall of man) and sin. We were all doomed to end up in hell because of sin and God cannot dwell amongst sin. He is so holy. Jesus came to die for our sin so we could get a chance to be reconciled to a holy God. That cleared a huge part of the way in making it into heaven again. Now we had to repent of our sins and live holy lives before God inorder to make it into heaven cause without holiness no one will see God. He is so holy that his only son litteraly had to die so we could have a chance. Holiness is the key word here.

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ms20182878 · 61-69, M

Oh yes... Holiness is very important, but our desire to live a holy life should be our humble response to God's immeasurable grace... We must be careful to not let our desire to live a holy life become the central focus of our life, to the extent that we spend all of our energy trying to clean up our life, and in the end have no fruit to show in the Kingdom. We are made righteous and justified by grace, through faith... Romans 3:21-26

lightshinesthroughdarkness · 70-79, F

@ms20182878 Being holy and trying to live a holy life is the fruit we will give. We will do this by fasting, praying, evangelising and repenting for our sins. Helping others, praying for others, everything we will be doing to get holy will be fruits in heaven, diamonds on our crowns.

ms20182878 · 61-69, M

@lightshinesthroughdarkness True, but sadly, many believers spend their life working on themselves, to the complete neglect of Matthew 28:18-20. They never get themselves cleaned up, so they never get around to sharing the Gospel.

I have found in my life, that when I am most focused on serving the Lord... my life is amazingly most holy at that same time.

LadyGrace ·

You insist on driving the doctrine of works before faith. Do you go by the Quran or the Bible? God’s Word CLEARLY states that one cannot earn their way to heaven BY TRYING TO BE GOOD OR BY DOING GOOD WORKS. Please look it up. Works come AFTER one is saved. Teaching it the other way around, does more harm than good. This is really disturbing that you’re telling people the exact opposite of what God says in His Word. Look it up.
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LadyGrace ·

There’s no such thing as cleaning up our life before we can come to Jesus and ask forgiveness. He accepts us as we are. @ms20182878

ms20182878 · 61-69, M

@LadyGrace I agree... those who try to clean up their life first become endlessly trapped in the clean up process because they can never be successful at it.

lightshinesthroughdarkness · 70-79, F

@LadyGrace faith without works is dead, means those people are dead while they think they live. Many people are in hell that thought they would get into heaven. Our old sensitive approach to spreading doesnt seem to work. I would rather tell them the truth upfront. They can do with it what they want but they knew.

LadyGrace ·

Whether saved or not...works play absolutely no part in salvation. That is my point. Proof being in God’s own Word.

It is important to note that works [b]follow[/b] faith. Works are a good diagnostic barometer of where our truth faith lies. Our good works in no way relate to our salvation. Paul makes very clear in Ephesians 2 that apart from Christ we are [b]dead in sin[/b] (Ephesians 2:4-9); we are therefore incapable of truly good works. However, after our salvation, we can perform the "good works, which God prepared beforehand" (Ephesians 2:10). Works are a fruit of our salvation, [u]not a means by which to earn it[/u].

That being said, once we are saved, we are expected to do good works. We are a reflection of Christ. As such, we do good to those around us (Galatians 6:10). We are new creations (2 Corinthians 5:17), so we act in new ways. The works we do should come from a transformed heart. Jesus said that people would know His followers by their love (John 13:35). In this way we are a light to the world (Matthew 5:14). Good works, then, demonstrate the veracity of our faith and the character of the God in Whom we believe.

Faith without works is dead, because true faith transforms a life. It is also true that works without faith are dead. Jesus said that some would call Him "Lord, Lord," but would not enter the kingdom of heaven (Matthew 7:21-23). This only means that there will be others who will have done works apart from faith, in an effort to save themselves. All our works are as filthy rags to God apart from Christ (Isaiah 64:6). They are tainted by our sin and not sufficient to take us from being dead in our trespasses (Colossians 2:13) to being alive.

When we have true faith in Christ, we are made new (2 Corinthians 5:17). Our lives are transformed and good works are the result. NOT because they save us or keep us saved. Grace is what keeps us saved, lest anyone could boast they saved themselves.

Faith is not intellectual assent only; it involves life change. Our faith is evidenced by the way we live.

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LadyGrace ·

@ms20182878 Also, the danger is, that people who try to clean up their lives before they decide they're good enough to face Christ and ask for forgiveness, never make it that far. They feel they'll never be "good enough", then end up lost forever. However,Jesus said come as you are and he will accept you no matter what .