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MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
@UndeadPrivateer Let me repeat myself. The Bible indicates that Luke 1# Argues that there was one Census prior to the one you're on about 2# He acknowledges the Census you are on about. From here obviously we continue to dig further
"Dig further" AKA find sources for why this statement that Luke made is or is not correct.
"Dig further" AKA find sources for why this statement that Luke made is or is not correct.
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
@UndeadPrivateer Notice how you absolutely achieved nothing through doing what you somehow think is intelligent, while you denied a perfect opportunity to study your concerns further.
I'm done with this circus show you've put on, I shall conduct the study on my own. Bye.
I'm done with this circus show you've put on, I shall conduct the study on my own. Bye.
UndeadPrivateer · 31-35, M
@MartinTheFirst Alright then, so I guess we're moving onto additional errors.
New Testament scholar Dr. Harold W. Hoehner has summarized some of the top challenges faced by those who hold to the historical accuracy of Luke’s account.
He writes:
“[Emil] Schurer states that Luke cannot be historically accurate because: (1) nothing is known in history of a general census during the time of Augustus; (2) in a Roman census Joseph would have not had to travel to Bethlehem but would have registered in the principle town of his residence, and Mary would not have had to register at all; (3) no Roman census would have been made in Palestine during Herod’s reign; (4) Josephus records nothing of a Roman census in Palestine in the time of Herod – rather the census of A.D. 6-7 was something new among the Jews; and (5) a census held under Quirinius could not have occurred during Herod’s reign for Quirinius was not governor until after Herod’s death.”
He writes:
“[Emil] Schurer states that Luke cannot be historically accurate because: (1) nothing is known in history of a general census during the time of Augustus; (2) in a Roman census Joseph would have not had to travel to Bethlehem but would have registered in the principle town of his residence, and Mary would not have had to register at all; (3) no Roman census would have been made in Palestine during Herod’s reign; (4) Josephus records nothing of a Roman census in Palestine in the time of Herod – rather the census of A.D. 6-7 was something new among the Jews; and (5) a census held under Quirinius could not have occurred during Herod’s reign for Quirinius was not governor until after Herod’s death.”
The specific census which Luke mentions (Lk. 2:2), is that it “first took place while Quirinius was governing Syria.”
Apart from Luke, we have two other historical sources concerning Quirinius – the Roman historian, Tacitus (Annals 3.48) and the Jewish/Roman historian, Flavius Josephus (Antiquities of the Jews 18.1-2).
According to Tacitus (Annals 3.48), P. Sulpicius Quirinius died in A.D. 21.
Josephus’s reference to Quirinius in Antiquities of the Jews (18, I,1.) poses somewhat of a problem, because he informs us that the “taxings conducted by Quirinius while governing Syria were made in the thirty-seventh year of Caesar’s victory over [Marc] Anthony at Actium in 31 B.C. This would place the census in about A.D. 6/7, a date which is too late to be brought into alignment with the birth of Christ which was likely in the winter 5/4 B.C.
Sources on both of those being Harold W. Hoehner, Chronological Aspects of the Life of Christ (Grand Rapids: Zondervan Publishing House, 1977)Apart from Luke, we have two other historical sources concerning Quirinius – the Roman historian, Tacitus (Annals 3.48) and the Jewish/Roman historian, Flavius Josephus (Antiquities of the Jews 18.1-2).
According to Tacitus (Annals 3.48), P. Sulpicius Quirinius died in A.D. 21.
Josephus’s reference to Quirinius in Antiquities of the Jews (18, I,1.) poses somewhat of a problem, because he informs us that the “taxings conducted by Quirinius while governing Syria were made in the thirty-seventh year of Caesar’s victory over [Marc] Anthony at Actium in 31 B.C. This would place the census in about A.D. 6/7, a date which is too late to be brought into alignment with the birth of Christ which was likely in the winter 5/4 B.C.
Miram · 31-35, F
I think you have to figure out why it matters so much.
To me it has to do with wanting things to get better and my past. I noticed when I am more active in volunteering, observing change manifesting clearly before me, I am less involved in trying to make others understand why they're wrong through words.
Sometimes we have to take matters in our hands. Be the good we wished we had when we were at need.
To me it has to do with wanting things to get better and my past. I noticed when I am more active in volunteering, observing change manifesting clearly before me, I am less involved in trying to make others understand why they're wrong through words.
Sometimes we have to take matters in our hands. Be the good we wished we had when we were at need.
TheWildEcho · 56-60, M
Remember that the words of Jesus will never pass away, but Trump's words will be forgotten
SW-User
I tried. Couldn't do it. Went the other way instead.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@SW-User The other way?
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