Hi creationists! I want to know what you feel is evidence that life on this planet was created rather than evolved. [Spirituality & Religion]

@GodSpeed63

Certainly. But you can make up any number of origin stories since they have no grounding in evidence.
THAT is not evidence. That is a faith claim. You have no way to show that your chosen origin story is any more true than the greeks or the native americans.


I asked for your [i]best[/i] evidence. Was that it?

My best evidence will be to have you show me your best evidence that God, Jehovah, doesn't live.

@GodSpeed63

I don't think you understand what evidence is, my dude.
If your best evidence is that you don't think i can disprove a supernatural creature using natural means then all you're saying is that you HAVE no evidence. Only confidence that i can't disprove your faith claim.

I asked you to share your best evidence that life was created rather than evolved.
Saying "You can't prove god doesn't exist" is not evidence that life was created nor is it evidence that life didn't evolve.

Try again.

I understand what evidence is. I'm wondering if you understand it.

@GodSpeed63 You don't ask someone on the other side of a debate to prove a negative. You lose. Again.

@GodSpeed63

[quote]I understand what evidence is. I'm wondering if you understand it.[/quote]

Well let me try to explain what i mean.

I asked for [i]evidence[/i] that life was created rather than evolved. Declaring that your unverifiable creation story (one of many) accounts for the origin of life is not evidence, it's a faith claim.
Evidence would be some observable data in the world which indicates that creation and not evolution better accounts for the diversity of life we see on this planet.

Do you see how saying "my faith says it happened this way, prove me wrong" does not constitute evidentiary support of creation over evolution?

Why wouldn't God want to create a world with diversity in it? Accidents do not create beauty or order, nor can they create complexity in living beings let alone life itself. Something from nothing = everything is a lie concocted by evolutionists to try to make evolution take the place of God. It hasn't happened yet. God is still on His throne.

@GodSpeed63

[quote] Accidents do not create beauty or order[/quote]

Interesting claim. You must now support it. I don't think even you would argue that seeds are dispersed by the wind according to a design and yet a forest may be beautiful. A mountain range may suffer random erosion by air and water and still be beautiful.
I'd say you're wrong on that point.

But this is secondary to the challenge i made, the challenge you have failed to meet. Of course god could create diversity if he so chose. I've asked you to share what you feel is the best EVIDENCE that creation and not evolution accounts for the diversity of life on this planet. You follow? Not a speculation about whether god could or would want to create diversity. Share with me the DATA which indicates that creation is the more likely explanation.

Can you do that for me?

@Pikachu [quote]A mountain range may suffer random erosion by air and water and still be beautiful.[/quote] That's not accident. An explosion is an accident, crashes are accidents, falls are accidents, you get my meaning here? If anyone failed here, it's you. You failed to understand what I meant by accidents. You ought to know better than that. The universe and everything in it, including earth was and never will be accidental because they're in order and they are beautiful. That's your evidence for God who created everything perfect before man messed it up. If you can't see that or don't want to see it, don't blame me, the church, or God.

@GodSpeed63

[quote]That's not accident[/quote]

Sure they are. Unless you're telling me that god consciously controls every whips of wind, raindrop and grain of sand.
And if you do then you're just setting up yet another unfalsifiable (and therefore indefensible) assertion.
If you say that accidents cannot create order or beauty and you know this because everything that is ordered and beautiful is the conscious work of god there there's no way to be proven wrong lol.
That's not evidence. You understand that, right? That is to say, it is not evidence you can present to anyone who does not already share your belief.
To put it simply that is not data, that is a faith claim.

But you're still wrong because explosions can certainly be beautiful. So can the sparkling glass of a smashed cup or the random swirls of a spilled paint tray.